• daltotron@lemmy.world
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    We also have to consider how many people are salvagable but are voting for republicans as compromise candidates, much like how radicals tend to do with SHADOWLORD JOE BIDEN

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        I have more than a couple friends where I this is probably the case, despite my endless bargaining, pleading, argumentation that they agree with, and my calls for them to simply engage in a little bit of [redacted] that realistically nobody will care about, in order to keep their guns, should some other, of many, idiotic gun laws come to pass. I dunno, it’s an insane issue. my hair is on end, and it’s been pulled out, at the same time.

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        Yep I would change my affiliation from Independent to Democrat if they would stop with the gun ban bullshit. I’m never going to vote for anyone who proposes to limit my freedom.

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        I’m Jewish, and having lost far too many relatives to centuries of bigotry in Europe culminating in the Holocaust, you can bet I’m not giving up my weapons. I don’t care what anyone says, I won’t vote for a single Dem because any compromise puts my family at further risk. It doesn’t take a history degree to look at the world and see that having limited methods of defense is all but guaranteeing another pogrom starts claiming my family. Heck, the police are all very cozy with the groups spouting Great Replacement propaganda and the Dems want me to believe the police will keep my family safe? How’s that working for other minorities?

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          Not American by any means, but isn’t it the republican ones constantly spouting antisemitic garbage on all kinds of media?

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            And do you trust the GOP, or even the Conservative Party known as the Democrats, holding the reins of all the people with guns? I, for one, do not.

            We’re coming up on a holiday celebrating one of the times Jews were forced to take up arms and defend themselves from violent antisemitism, and it’s hardly the only such occurrence in Jewish history. I would argue that even through a “history is written by the victors” lens, there are pretty good reasons to stay armed and vigilant, no matter which party currently has a majority. Neither party has my safety as their priority, and they’ll both happily sacrifice my entire family and millions of others to “keep the peace”. If you’d like more historical examples, let me know. I spent quite some time studying various genocides during my undergrad time at University.

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          Im also Jewish, and what scares me is antisemitism becoming more and more common, as well as the Republican lawmakers openly being antisemitic. Maybe worry about that first and foremost.

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            Antisemitism is already here, and never really left. Voting only does so much, and the government we have sure AF is not going to protect us. Pogroms were, and will be, carried out by paramilitary groups. Guns don’t solve every problem, but they’re unparalleled for the problems they do solve. When the time comes, better to have an AR and not need it, than need one and not have it.