For the record, I’m not condoning or advocating for corporal punishment, this is just my personal experience!

My dad was a strict disciplinarian growing up and his favorite punishment was the belt. Butt naked, bent over, his belt striking my ass. I got the belt until I was 19 and moved to another city for university. Looking back, I believe the belt had quite a positive impact on my life: academically, behavior wise, discipline, being responsible, taking care of my body and health, eliminating procrastination, etc. I never felt traumatized.

Is my outlook just a coping mechanism or something?

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    It is because you are trying to justify the results after the fact rather than just letting the methodology speak for itself. Similar to flat earth and antiavax. Good for you if you turned out “all right”, but a right answer with bad input/logic is still flimsy. Scientific analog is Maxwell discovering the theoretical speed of light. Its as fast as light estimates so it must be. He’s right but other things could travel at light speed (like gravitational waves).

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    First of all, I want to make clear that I strongly suspect that this is not a genuine post, and has been posted on bad faith.

    But to answer the question, the truth is that it’s impossible to know. You’re comparing a known outcome to an imaginary hypothetical one.

    The real question to ask is, even if it was the case, do the ends justify the means?

    Is it ever ok for an adult to physically attack a child in their care over, let’s face it, trivial matters?

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      No. I already said I don’t support corporal punishment. If I had kids (I don’t want kids) I wouldn’t use it. What do you mean by “imaginary hypothetical” though? And why do you think my question is in bad faith?

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        The imaginary hypothetical outcome is the version of you that would have happened without beatings. You stated that you felt corporal punishment had a positive impact on many aspects of your personality. What are you comparing it to? A hypothetical alternative version of you that hadn’t been beaten.

        Bad faith markers:

        • No previous post or comment history.
        • First post is on a contentious topic.
        • Sentiment of the post is unusual - “I don’t support it, but I was abused for an unusually long time and I think it was good for me”.
        • Call to action is particularly baity - “is it just a coping mechanism”.
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        I can’t speak for the original questioner, but your account is very new. Lemmy is a bit clannish and rightly suspicious of these types of account.

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    I am curious how old you are now to hold that perspective. I used to believe I deserved to be abused as well. I was an awfully misbehaved kid and my mom was constantly fighting me, like fist-fighting me, because I would fight back. At no point in my life was there a time where I was just getting beat without throwing punches back its just how my brain worked. I used to think because I was like that, that I deserved it because good kids don’t fight back, they take their beatings and suck it up.

    Then when I hit about 30-ish it dawned on me that I was a fucking child, a literal adolecent that didn’t know the mistakes I made would end with me getting punched in the mouth. The only thing valuable I got out of those interactions was learning how to fight.

    However, the anger management and probation programs I was in between 12-16 did actually provide value to my life and taught me how to not be a psychopath like my mother. Though admittedly, it took a while for all those classes and workshops to really sink in. I now have the tools I need to understand my own emotions and when I need to walk away from a situation that is upsetting me, and I now understand that my actions have consequences and I don’t get to take them back just because I feel bad after the fact. This took years for me to figure out, and it should have been something I knew from childhood. I was too concerned with feeling like I was a bad kid just for being born not knowing how to do everything perfectly the first time.

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        Then yes, I believe you are coping. I really believe If you make it to your 30’s and still think hitting children is a good way to teach them lessons, it’s because there is something broken inside of you.