Just got very lightly flamed by another user for making fun of crypto and was told that Lemmy and crypto have “the exact same advantages and disadvantages”. Now I disagree heavily there, since even if it shares some principles I’d argue that the scale of the problems change when you’re talking about a global finance system versus a social media platform filled with beans. But it did get me curious- how many of you are crypto supporters?
No? There’s definitely some overlap but they’re completely different concepts, just because I like Lemmy doesn’t mean I enjoy unstable coins that use up a ton of energy for no reason and can lose their value by the end of the day
See, that was my response too! Federated servers will waste a bit of energy with duplicate fetch requests, sure, but it’s a far cry from the decades of compute time wasted with adversarial validation and cryptographic mathematics. And that doesn’t even deal with the shitty coins themselves.
Was very confused why they seemed to think the concepts were the same, and thought maybe I was the idiot.
The only concept that is the same I am aware of is that both are decentralized.
I think the person you were talking to had not really given as much thought into the subject.
Thinking about it too much makes them feel uncomfortable and less optimistic, so they avoid it and try to just focus on the many things they will buy when the value of their crypto coins inexplicably goes really high (which it might if a lot of money needs laundering, though I wonder if previous rounds worked out as well as they were hoping or if they got fucked by exchanges disappearing with their money in the night and decided to just go back to 3 mattress stores on one corner in various cities.
Lmao, this guy lightly flaming the crypto Bois in the fediverse.
I’m about as cryto-retarded as they come, yet here I am, a geezer millennial on Lemmy
I honestly see* more overlap with the open-source community than with the crypto community
I don’t care about crypto at all. At this point I think of any crypto as pump and dump scams unless proven otherwise
No, fuck crypto. At best it’s a solution looking for a problem while speedrunning a century of banking regulation reform, at worst it’s an environmentally disastrous scam.
God, I hope not. Crypto is an interesting technology that’s been used to promote what’s essentially a scam. Just ask yourself this: Are the people into crypto using it to buy things? Or are they going to sell it for dollars at a high value and then walk away?
Most are the latter. Very few people even bother setting up software wallets. They just keep their crypto on markets and try to sell high.
That means that for most people, it’s not a currency at all, it’s an investment. But a normal investment is backed by something of value, while crypto is just backed by pure speculation - that is, it’s backed by all the other people who are trying to sell high, too. The name for a system where you get people to buy valueless assets and drive up their price so you can sell yours and leave others holding the bag is: “Ponzi scheme.”
The name for a system where you get people to buy valueless assets and drive up their price so you can sell yours and leave others holding the bag is: “Ponzi scheme.”
No, that’s a Greater Fool scheme. A Ponzi is more centralized and the people who get paid out are not supposed to be aware that the money is coming from new investors. Ponzi schemes hide that aspect of it. In a Greater Fool you are betting on someone being dumber than yourself enough to buy your worthless investment at a higher price.
A lot of crypto is Greater Fool, but there have been crypto Ponzi schemes.
As a side note, there is a cultural tendency to call all scams Ponzis when they are not. It is a specific type of scam.
Huh. I was thinking of the whole scheme being centralized around a few core people who push crypto, but I think you’re right. “Greater fool” is a better label for it. Thanks!
It’s a bit of both. The increase in value for those who got in early is propped up by the hype of new bagholders.
I am not. Plus the ones needing to be mined by wasting of ton of energy are basically an environmental disaster.
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Crypto is and always has been a joke. It also doesn’t work that much like the fediverse, which is basically a webring where the sites like to copy each other. TBH I’m looking forward to the
webring hostLemmy instance drama and people beingkicked from the webringdefederated.I would argue no, in fact I feel like the Fediverse is a functional version of decentralization as opposed to Block Chains.
Block Chains are resource heavy, to the point of effecting the ecosystem. They’re supppsed to be 100% reliable yet major Block Chains have already needed to fork their databases, plus it’s very easy to scam and hack into wallets without any legal repercussions. And they have little to no use cases so we had to invent uses like Crypto and NFT. (Yeah there could be use cases for deeds and stuff, but with the unreliability I don’t want Block Chain anywhere near my house deed).
Meanwhile we have the Fediverse, which is essientially like a bunch of Discord servers stringed together, and it accomplishes a decentralized social network without the planet destroying or needless money speculation added on top.
i’m generally anti-crypto. i’m not against it fully, i think it has a purpose but that purpose is not unstable, highly volatile investments, meme coins, or play-to-earn games.
Absolutely not. Hell my whole instance is vehemently anti crypto
Only reason I want to get into crypto is being able to donate to heroes like fitgirl
Goddamned heroes 07
I do own & use cryptocurrencies a bit but would never had thought to link Lemmy to anything crypto related. Don’t even follow any crypto communities around here… being part of the Reddit exodus, over on Reddit there’s so much spam and shills surrounding the topic that I avoid those communities there too.
My guess is you just happened to run into a random crypto bro.
Lol, no I am not. Crypto in it’s current form, is not going to be a legitimate, stable, daily use currency. Digital money/systems with technological roots in crypto may be the future but it will be a 2nd cousin, once removed, at best.
NFTs as implemented, are also pure BS.
Step right up folks, get your hot hot takes here!
Real cryptocurrencies (of which bitcoin is the only one, don’t @ me) I think are fine and worthwhile projects. 99% of the rest of the crypto sphere is straight up snake oil, and anyone saying any different is probably trying to sell you something.
The difference with the fediverse is that its main appeal is actually the decentralization and censor resistance, not the boatloads of speculative money to be made. The “entrepreneurs” seeing dollar signs is what made crypto into a joke, so hopefully we can avoid that for a while.
Almost exactly my take on it. I just include monero.
I’ve run into a couple of cryptobros on Lemmy, but not many.
Found to be the opposite here, but I guess it’ll depend on what communities you follow.
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