Not really, Germany is very tough on Nazi imagery. You can’t display anything even close to Nazi stuff unless it is in a strictly historical context. Video games and movies where Nazis are clearly enemies and are killed had to edit swastikas to an analog because it would not be allowed to be released in Germany.
They are so shamed by their past that anything that may plausibly be Nazi stuff is verboten(forbidden auf Deutsch).
So it is the question of it being a Nazi salute or not that makes it radioactive to German media, not that they consider it undeniably a Nazi salute.
movies and videogames didnt have to edit the swastikas out, they are also allowed in artistic works. its just that no studio wanted to go infront of german court to determine wether videogames are art or not. replacing them with the wolfenstein logo seems to be cheaper
It’s not about shame. It’s about making sure that it will never happen again. That’s why there isn’t a blanket ban on them, Nazi symbols are still very much legal to be shown in educational contexts, for example.
Although, uhh, looking at the current state of affairs it doesn’t seem to be working too well
Subsection (1) shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, to promote art or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes
If there are reasons for German newspapers to omit Musk’s Hitler salute, that’s not it.
I recall seeing a printed news paper front page where the Hitler salute was covered out in blue. I tried finding the front page cover. Are there differences between print and internet media?
German newspaper refused to publish the photo. They know a thing or two about nazis.
The adl is a joke and is no longer reputable, after they decried “anti semitism” to any form of protest to the genocide in Palestine.
I didn’t know German newspapers refused to publish the photo but yea, that says a lot.
Not really, Germany is very tough on Nazi imagery. You can’t display anything even close to Nazi stuff unless it is in a strictly historical context. Video games and movies where Nazis are clearly enemies and are killed had to edit swastikas to an analog because it would not be allowed to be released in Germany.
They are so shamed by their past that anything that may plausibly be Nazi stuff is verboten(forbidden auf Deutsch).
So it is the question of it being a Nazi salute or not that makes it radioactive to German media, not that they consider it undeniably a Nazi salute.
movies and videogames didnt have to edit the swastikas out, they are also allowed in artistic works. its just that no studio wanted to go infront of german court to determine wether videogames are art or not. replacing them with the wolfenstein logo seems to be cheaper
It’s not about shame. It’s about making sure that it will never happen again. That’s why there isn’t a blanket ban on them, Nazi symbols are still very much legal to be shown in educational contexts, for example.
Although, uhh, looking at the current state of affairs it doesn’t seem to be working too well
There are exceptetions to that law: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a
If there are reasons for German newspapers to omit Musk’s Hitler salute, that’s not it.
A quick look at german Newspapers would tell you that this statement is false
https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2025-01/elon-musk-kritik-hitlergruss-geste https://www.br.de/nachrichten/deutschland-welt/elon-musks-arm-geste-reaktion-auf-angeblichen-hitlergruss,UaVppB4 https://taz.de/Elon-Musks-Hitlergruss/!6060000/
I recall seeing a printed news paper front page where the Hitler salute was covered out in blue. I tried finding the front page cover. Are there differences between print and internet media?
https://mastodon.social/@mistakenotmy/113866969458218536
There are links to the news paper.
It’s an opinion piece talking about not jumping through the hoops of Musk’s outrage tactic. https://www.zeit.de/kultur/2025-01/elon-musk-hitlergruss-amtseinfuehrung-donald-trump
The same newspaper had the full video online a few days earlier.
Ok but they masked the nazi salute