I’ve also seen people say “Snopes debunked Elon’s Nazi salutes”

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    20 hours ago

    Not really, Germany is very tough on Nazi imagery. You can’t display anything even close to Nazi stuff unless it is in a strictly historical context. Video games and movies where Nazis are clearly enemies and are killed had to edit swastikas to an analog because it would not be allowed to be released in Germany.

    They are so shamed by their past that anything that may plausibly be Nazi stuff is verboten(forbidden auf Deutsch).

    So it is the question of it being a Nazi salute or not that makes it radioactive to German media, not that they consider it undeniably a Nazi salute.

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      movies and videogames didnt have to edit the swastikas out, they are also allowed in artistic works. its just that no studio wanted to go infront of german court to determine wether videogames are art or not. replacing them with the wolfenstein logo seems to be cheaper

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      They are so shamed by their past

      It’s not about shame. It’s about making sure that it will never happen again. That’s why there isn’t a blanket ban on them, Nazi symbols are still very much legal to be shown in educational contexts, for example.

      Although, uhh, looking at the current state of affairs it doesn’t seem to be working too well

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      16 hours ago

      There are exceptetions to that law: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a

      Subsection (1) shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, to promote art or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes

      If there are reasons for German newspapers to omit Musk’s Hitler salute, that’s not it.