Signal lämnar Sverige om regeringens förslag på datalagring klubbas
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Den krypterade meddelandeappen Signal växer – nu använder till och med Försvarsmakten appen. Men regeringen vill tvinga bolaget att införa en teknisk bakdörr åt Polisen och Säpo. – Om det blir verklighet så lämnar vi Sverige, säger Signals chef Meredith Whittaker, i en exklusiv intervju med SVT.

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/56591279

Swedish government wants a back door in signal for police and ‘Säpo’ (Swedish federation that checks for spies)

Let’s say that this becomes a law and Signal decides to withdraw from Sweden as they clearly state that they won’t implement a back door; would a citizen within the country still be able to use and access Signals services? Assuming that google play services probably would remove the Signal app within Sweden (which I also don’t use)

I just want the government to go f*ck themselves, y’know?

      • AItoothbrush@lemmy.zipEnglish
        4·
        1 hour ago

        Shithole called hungary… had no choice at this point, my sister is trans so we kinda escaped that place. Thankfully hungary is eu so it was easy to move here. Pretty nice so far apart from even this place slowly turning to the right but every country is doing that right now…

  • sp3ctre@feddit.orgEnglish
    5·
    4 hours ago

    If privacy will be taken from ordinary citizens, only criminals will enjoy true privacy.

    • Vincent@feddit.nlEnglish
      4·
      4 hours ago

      Ah good, it had become to easy to convince my friends to let me message them on Signal.

    • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      7·
      6 hours ago

      Signal has already said they’d “leave Sweden first”.

      But what does that mean today, when the Internet is non-local, and I can run my own VPN with Wireguard or Tailscale?

      • Ooops@feddit.orgEnglish
        3·
        5 hours ago

        But what does that mean today

        The first thing you need to understand is: if any government is demanding a back door to a messenger in the name of law enforcement, they are lying. It is simple as that.

        Everybody spending more than 10 seconds on the subject knows that there are hundreds of alternatives out there. And somebody actually needing a way to keep illegal activities hidden will just switch over to something else.

        There is only one reason to push for such an idea (and always for the popular messenger options of course): Wanting to surveil ordinary citizens that don’t think much about which platform they use. Because everyone else will be gone from the platform in the blink of an eye.

        So this means exactly nothing for you if you want to keep using Signal. Because they won’t stop you and they won’t care. You are not the target if you actually think about consequences. They aim at the majority that will just move on to the next popular mainstream option over time once Signal isn’t available in the domestic app store anymore… hopefully (or not… depending on your perspective) to an option that will not resist demands for an backdoor when the time comes.

  • solo@slrpnk.netEnglish
    11·
    6 hours ago

    Signal’s encryption was great. Still, for some years now they are not 100% open source and they still advertise themselves as open source.

      • zmrl@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        15 minutes ago

        There isn’t any proof that the app you download is built exactly from the source code on github. There could be an intermediate step to inject whatever they want before packaging it for the app stores.

        There’s also the conspiracy that Signal has been compromised since the beginning as they received initial funding from the CIA. Not sure exactly where I stand on this, but it is plausible.

        The protocol itself is open source though so someone could make an open source service with that.