• alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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    Roflmasterbigpimp accused the Chinese company of spying.

    I pointed out that the Chinese company can’t spy becaause it’s model was open source and could be locally run, while the US company set up its operation to allow it to spy on any use of its model.

    Mubelotix claimed ChatGPT made their model public, which would only be relevant to the conversation as a evidence that the US is not spying either.

    I said the model isn’t public.

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      2 days ago

      Well, there is an Android client that sends keystrokes (and loads of other data) back to Chinese servers. Which very much fulfils my definitions of spying.

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        The app uses Deepseek’s servers. It physically could not function if it didn’t send your input data to their servers.

        What other data does it send?

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          It is not about sending just the prompt. It’s about sending keystrokes, which goes beyond input to the current app.

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            1 day ago

            Keystrokes you put into the app is useful for the devs to understand user intentions. But you saaid “loads of other data”.

            Answer by question first, what “loads of other data”? Did you just make that up?

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              There was another post today listing all the permissions the app needs/wants/requires. It was amazingly long.

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                It asks for camera and file permissions, both which can be declined. Everything else is metadata that comes with logging in via google or wechat.