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Hardest pill to swallow: that includes “lesser of two evils”.
Fascists deserve to be shot and killed
Big hill to climb after giving them a military and government, but agreed.
Myanmar’s military regime had the best grip possible on the armed forces by basically making a separate caste to avoid having the soldiers having second thoughts about shooting at their own families.
People tend to ignore that civil war, but it’s going to be studied for centuries because of all the unique tactics that have been deployed by all sides.
like what
Tbh there’s far more happening there than I actually understand, but I know that military advisors around the world are already studying and watching the war. Here’s a pretty decent article on it
Power is where people believe it is.
No one really “controls” a military or government, at every step of the chain people can disagree. And when they do, it doesn’t always shake out the way people expect.
I was threatened with a mutinity charge in the Navy, but I stood by my position and like five people didn’t get demoted over some bullshit that wasn’t their fault.
If I’d have backed down, they’d have been fucked because they were the fall guys.
If trump tries to sic the US government on citizens or blue states, don’t expect everyone to just follow orders, even if the people at the very top do. They’re still the ones sitting at desks.
Look at South Korea, president tried to pull a coup and basically everyone told him to fuck off. Didn’t matter that he was in charge of the military and government
This is exactly right. You say no.
Or you say yes, and take your time, fuck it up, do it wrong, report that you succeeded when you did nothing, etc. Wrench in the gears.
It ain’t just that, it’s making them have the fight.
Not sure how many people remember Project Pat, but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLbYMfbBB1w
We used to sing it except “ain’t going back to mast” because Captain’s Mast was the less formal version of Court Martial. At a mast, the Captain could do whatever they wanted and no one higher up even heard about it.
You had to agree to Mast, if you didn’t they’d have to take you to court martial where people outside the chain of command got to hear what’s going on. The downside is punishment could be much worse.
Some of my guys were getting fucked, so I told everyone to refuse Captain’s Mast, and the command backed down because it was obvious they weren’t the problem. But our chain of command showed they didn’t give a fuck.
Word spread that a 1/3 of my division got out of demotions, and it was all anyone would talk about.
It’s why I don’t take the idea of the American military being used against Americans very seriously. The vast majority are just there because they have no other options. They hate the military more than most pascifists do. So it doesn’t take much for shit to break down.
That’s not even getting into how much of the military are minorities, immigrants, or even non-citizens. They’re not gonna do what trump wants them to.
Look at South Korea, president tried to pull a coup and basically everyone told him to fuck off. Didn’t matter that he was in charge of the military and government
So there is a chance!
There’s always a chance…
Up to the point of Terminator robot soldiers, then we’re fucked.
By the time we get those, we need to have our shit sorted out.
Military gets overhyped. The U.S. Armed Forces have not successfully managed to root out a guerilla force ever. It’s why they lost in Vietnam and why they keep losing in the Middle East. To be perfectly honest, I’m not sure if any modern military is actually equipped to handle a mobilized, armed revolution from their own civilians.
War overseas isn’t same as insurgency at home.
Also, Americans have been living pretty comfortable lives compared to tough mofos in Vietnam and Afghanistan where poverty and instability is/was the norm. Few weeks of hardships and the insurgency in US will die out.
It’s why they lost in Vietnam
I think the main reason is that the war lost popular support back home.
I’d argue that if the Army was more effective at fighting againt guerillas, they’d have achieved victory before popular support waned.
Yeah. what was that war about again? Preventing communism?
Maintaining French colonial holdings.
Big problem is, if you just wait for them to be toppled, you’ll just be subjugated by the one doing the toppling.
You won’t solve the overall problems with big violent revolutions, you get it by making the oligarchs irrelevant.
Same principle as fediverse. Decentralized society of active participants, not consumers. Everyone’s the master, or some are masters and many are slaves.
