I mean like:
- Chinese (Edit: Mandarin Chinese) will become the lingua franca of the world
- The Internation Aviation Language will (probably) become Chinese (replacing Aviation English)
- Lunar New year becomes a popular holiday (like Chrismas is currently popular worldwide)
- The Internet will use mostly Chinese Chracter
- And instead of 26 Latin based characters, you’ll have to learn thousands of characters, imagine that 😅 (or just use a translator tool 🤷♂️)
- There would be a China version of Hollywood, taking over the original Hollywood
- Fengshui becomes a thing that the world starts to care about
- UN Headquarters now located in Shanghai (I’m guessing this is the most “international” city in China, right?)
- Boeing is dead, some Chinese airplane manufacturer now dominates, competing with Airbus.
- Baidu is default search engine (now with less censorship due to democrarization)
- Harmony OS (Huawei’s Android fork) become the new “Apple”, iPhone is now insignificant, ranking below Motorola in terms of market share.
- Either Windows get brought by some Chinese Bussiness person, or there China makes a Linux distribution that starts off as Open Source with some proprietary components (like how Android is), then eventually becoming Closed Source once they overtake Windows. Lets call it PandaOS (I’m not creative with names 'mmkay)
- etc…
Sounds like an interesting world 🤔
What do you think?
I’d be too worried about the CCP backsliding, but if it theoritycally collapsed, and the ROC swooped in to take its place, then yeah I’d be fine with it. Better than Trump’s america
Me being OK with a specific nation as superpower had zero impact on weather or not that nation becomes a superpower or not.
I think your premise - If China becomes democratic - is a really, really big IF.
But hey if they can show us a better way and use their resources to help the world, go nuts. A true 1:1 democracy would be fascinating to see implemented.
I’d rather have multipolarity.
When you refer to becoming democratic, you mean like how it has been until a couple of years ago? Or, are you referring to China suddenly becoming Capitalist instead of Communist?
Or, are you referring to China suddenly becoming Capitalist instead of Communist?
China is already capitalist. By “Democratic” I mean as in Liberal Democracy.
So they can turn fascist again?
Why?
There should never be a global super power. Ever.
Not really, the same issues that plague the world right now will still exist, just stemming from a different entity
Is hexbear leaking or something?
Yeah, no, the Chinese government should not be in charge of China, less so of the world.
I don’t want to have a camera tracking my every movement and lose social points every time I make a misstep. I don’t want to just disappear when I say something the government doesn’t agree with.
Having said that, Fuck pooh bear
I specifically said “If China becomes democratic”… 🙄
I guess all the downvotes is from people that somehow missed it… 🤦♂️
(And yes, fuck lemmygrad, fuck hexbear, fuck CCP, dictatorship is bad regardless of country)
Linguistically, I want neither English but Chinese, but an auxiliary language to be the lingua franca. I already know Esperanto, so this would be a good candidate as far as I’m concerned. There’s no way I’m learning Chinese.
I want to see as much nonfree closed source software replaced by FOSS as possible, no matter who makes it.
The others (pop culture, companies) wouldn’t bother me much at all. But I don’t think Christmas would stop being popular at least in Europe.
No. Even if they dramatically changed on all fronts, became a democracy, promoted LGBT+ and racial civil rights, broke up their concentration camps, stopped surveiling citizens, gave people true elections, and stopped cracking down on political opponents, their nation is facing an extremely serious gender and population imbalance, one that will have drastic impacts on their society and stability in the next 30 years. A large portion of their workforce is going to retire and cannot be sustained by the smaller population that are kids and teens now. There’s also a severe gender imbalance from the One Child Policy favoring boys over girls. There’s no getting off that train, and shit like incel culture and a ton of retirees causes bad political instability. Or wars, to distract from problems at home, like what Russia is doing.
It’s going to be a massive problem since they don’t have much in the way of immigration, and even if they got a ton of people pregnant now, they are still facing down a 10+ year deficit of people.
Hell, the only reason why we aren’t in the same boat is that we didn’t implement boneheaded policies like that, and immigration helps offset our birthrate being below the replacement rate of people. We depend on immigrants as much as they depend on us.
This reads more like “do you care if Chinese culture becomes popular and dominant” and I am not sure. Except for the language (which I don’t think I could learn before I die) I don’t care, the music is good, movies, dance. And China and India are both so populous it would make logical sense to me that one might be the trend-setting culture.
But politically I think it more likely that the US finds its way back to democracy, than China finding its way there.
I don’t care which country is the global super power as long as it adhere to the liberal world order and all that comes with it.
I want to leave in peace, enjoy my human rights and not have to worry about other countries using arms to push their will.But also: a lot of those points have nothing to do with who the global super power is
Appendix: maybe I was vague but my answer is that as long as the super power follows the rule-based order (as it is supposed to be obviously) it doesn’t matter who that super power is. China, Russia, USA, Albania, the Vatican, Congo, w/e.
Understand that might does not make right and follow the same rules as the lesser states and I’m happy.Hummm the “liberal world order” is 100% “countries” using arms to push their will. Countries being “the west”.
And YOU having “human rights” is not really dependent on the “liberal world order”. Most of your rights were won by blood and tears during the late 1800s and early 1900s, through popular movements mostly ideologically aligned first with anarchism then with communism.
Also, the vast majority of the world not having human rights and being colonized and exploited IS your “liberal world order”.
So not really sure how you specifically benefit from western imperialism, unless you are a billionaire ofc. Which I highly doubt.
adhere to the liberal world order
And YOU having “human rights” is not really dependent on the “liberal world order”. Most of your rights were won by blood and tears during the late 1800s and early 1900s, through popular movements mostly ideologically aligned first with anarchism then with communism.
You are correct in that the liberal world order is an effect of previous hardwon freedoms. What is your point? The LIO makes sure that if my government tries to take these freedoms from me it invokes international support. So a malicious government will not only have to deal with domestic pushback, but international as well.
Also, the vast majority of the world not having human rights and being colonized and exploited IS your “liberal world order”.
…which is why these countries are under sanctions for example. Take Venezuela as a case. But yes, the postcolonial debate is ongoing.
Lmao vuvuzela ok gotcha
Boom got’em
What
Oh sorry, didn’t look at your instance. I realize now that you just wanted to shit on the liberal world order, not make a point
But also: a lot of those points have nothing to do with who the global super power is
I mean, Americanization of the world was helped by the fact that US became a global superpower.
Absolutely, soft power is definitely relevant.
A lot of people in the global south might say they don’t want it to adhere to the “liberal world order”
You’re speaking from a position of privilege, and suggesting that you should keep your privilege
I don’t care. The question was if I was okay with China as the super power and my answer is that it don’t matter as long as it adheres to the liberal world order.
Get off your high horse.
“I’m on board with change in the global order as long as we maintain hegemony”
very valuable contribution thank you
Hegemony of whom? Lame ass comment
China
it don’t matter as long as it adheres to the liberal world order.
Well, they don’t.
I would even say, the distance between China and a liberal world order is more than the diameter of our planet.
For sure lol
Depends on whether or not China shifts demographically as well. They’re currently too xenophobic and monocultural. Look at most western developed country and you’ll see quite a bit of diversity. I don’t think you’ll ever have a global superpower that is so set on race or where you were born.
China is definitely not immigration friendly.
China is not easy to immigrate to, true. But saying they are monocultures or xenophobic is CRAZY.
China has way more peoples and cultures than most countries. It has waaaay more languages officially spoken and taught in school than the US. It’s more comparable to the EU, if it had formed like a thousand years earlier.
Just search a couple of random Chinese provinces or autonomous regions (places where minorities self-govern 😲) in like the north and the south, or the west and the east, and read on the culture and ethnicities there.
Seriously Americans insist they have such vast cultural differences within the US, because “here we say pop and there they say soda; most people here are anabaptist, but there they are Methodists”.
Bro in China they speak languages that are not even related. They follow religions that are separated by thousands of years. They have cultural practices that are unique to their region that developed for thousands and thousands of years.
China is infinitely more diverse than 90% of countries in the world.
Not for long if the han Chinese policy is kept going 😄
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China already is a superpower
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There can be more than one superpower
They mean global hegemon. China isn’t that.
Global Superpower
Like pervasive American influence into everything. Military bases everywhere. Hollywood everywhere. Internet is mostly American sites with American users, taking about American politics. But replace all that with China.
yeah, it honestly is already like that
China is already like that, just outside the West. Even in the West you’re not going to find a single person that doesn’t have a bit of Chinese goods and/or culture in their daily life.
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no.
why?
because democracies don’t work in a world devoid of consequences against the rich and powerful.
Yeah I’ve grown pretty dissillusioned in democracy. Seems like a system where the loudest, richest, and most obnoxious rule.
