• CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe
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    12 hours ago

    All 5 of them. “We just don’t want to be put in concentration camps.” Just a little bit of hyperbole.

    They weren’t thrown into concentration camps in 2016-20, and it is very likely if not guaranteed that they won’t be put into concentration camps now. If anyone tries to put them into concentration camps, I support them being armed & defending their rights to freedom.

    There is a lot of ignorance about firearms, and by people who admit in the article they have not owned or operated firearms. If they are of sound mind & judgment & educate themselves on firearm safety, I see no problem with this movement. Knowledge dispels fear. An armed, educated populace isn’t enslaved. I want everyone who is good to also be strong, smart, armed, and free.

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      9 hours ago

      People absolutely were thrown into concentration camps during his last term, and they tried to do it more.

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            8 hours ago

            …concentration…camps? Poison gas showers, slave labor, cremation ovens? Concentration camps, designed to slaughter people en masse?

            I agree, they were overcrowded because there were so many illegal immigrants. There were a few deaths, and even abuses, I read some of them. I’m not cheering for things like that.

            But to label detention camps as concentration camps like Nazi Germany, that’s not even close to true. If we’re calling those concentration camps, I must say, they are the worst concentration camps in the history of the world. Or does that, ironically, make them the best? The concentration camps with the least deaths.

            I don’t recall us going into Mexico & other countries, rounding up foreign citizens, and bringing them to the United States specifically to be killed in concentration camps as an ethnic cleansing.

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              7 hours ago

              they don’t have to be industrialized murder facilities to be concentration camps.

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                And it’s just one step away. We’ve got oligarchs doing Nazi salutes at the coronation of a new god-king. It’s hardly inconceivable.

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                  5 hours ago

                  It is clear we don’t agree politically, but I’ve seen the unaltered clips of that salute & it’s…idk it’s kinda fucked up & difficult to explain away. Terrible optics.

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              I suggest you look up what most concentration camps were like. Auschwitz was an exception even by the standards of concentration camps and is nowadays usually called “extermination camp” for that reason.

              That doesn’t mean that the other camps weren’t horrible, they were, but they were also awfully comparable to a lot of things that happen in the US prison system.

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      11 hours ago

      They are building camps in Texas. Concentration camps are going to be a thing soon.

      It’s a matter of who is put in there first, probably migrants, but any mass immigration sweep WILL sweep up citizens. It’s happened in the past before.