Summary
Utah has introduced strict guidelines for transgender girls in high school sports, requiring testosterone levels below 66 ng/dl—far stricter than NCAA or Olympic standards—and proof of ongoing gender-affirming care, which was banned in the state in 2023.
Critics argue the rules effectively bar all transgender girls from participating, contradicting the law’s intent to only ban cases of safety or competitive advantage.
Advocates warn the policy harms trans youth by excluding them from the mental health and social benefits of sports.
And this will lower my grocery prices how?
It’s almost like it was never about the price of eggs.
What’s weird is that qons keep bleating that donvict was “good at economy” or something of that nature. What a fucking load that is. If it was even remotely true, I might see how these dumbasses might use “but mah eggs!” as an excuse, but the record of donvict’s first term in reality is absolutely abysmal. But I guess if donvict and those around him keep repeating stupid meaningless mantras like “promises made, promises kept”, I guess enough intellectual lightweights will buy into it.
I suppose if one of the promises was to kill more Americans than anyone in history, I guess that was kept?
I wonder how many cis gendered girls are going to get dinged.
If it hurts cis women as well as trans people, Republicans will consider it a bonus.
They’ll happily eat a shit sandwich as long as you have to smell it
Very many I’ll bet. The medically accepted “normal” range for free T in women is 15 to 70 ng/dl (quick and dirty google), so 66 is already inside of that. And thats not counting the huge swath of women with pcos/endo/etc disorders that tend to result in higher T as well.
I can also guarantee some testing company owned by a Republican is now salivating at the idea of testing every girl. Lobbying probably won’t even be hard, just say “secret trans” and Republicans will be chomping at the bit to pass that law.
Not sure how T works in women, but men who workout and are physically active also produce more. If it’s similar that will put more in the top end of that range.
I would imagine that this would only apply to trans athletes.
just like how puberty blockers would only apply to trans kids, ie it didn’t
So frustrating that I’ve lived long enough that we are passing laws with the specific purpose of excluding one minor group of people.
While these laws are expressly exclusionary, the overall intent is to erode civil rights protections. It’s easier for them to argue against civil rights when they can present a legal justification for it.
At least there’s a way for them to compete in the sports of their gender. In many red states, it’s just banned with no thought of doing this. I wish it wasn’t more strict than the NCAA, but at least it’s better than other red states.
there’s not tho. they need to meet unrealistic testosterone standards, and they need proof of care they can’t get.
I could see some company cashing in on this and saying you need to test all girls for secret trans… and then I picking up girls with PCOS and other disorders that change testosterone levels.
Oh yea, definitely. But they could get that number changed. At least it’s not a blanket ban. It’s les than 1/4 the NCAA number.
Well, we can thank the qons for always focusing on things that affect everyday Americans.
What will this do for the price of eggs, I wonder?
Well, well, well, now you think of the eggs. Real Women just have 'em free you know. /s
Proof of care that is banned?
How long before you need a Doohicky license, and they just don’t issue Doohickey licenses because it’s not a real. Just submit form G8–217. OK, where do I get the form? That’s the neat part, you don’t!
Exactly. That’s what’s so callously ridiculous about it. That T level, 66 ng/dl, is quite achievable by trans women with the proper treatment. Puberty blockers or T-blockers and E? That’s quite doable. It would be a quite reasonable bar for most trans women to reach for.
Except, they then of course outlawed that treatment for minors.
FWIW - IMO all athletes should be subject to controls, and meet certain testosterone levels depending on their class, not just trans.
Why? 90% of high level athletics is genetics. Basically all your top athletes started out with a massive advantage over the general public. That is why Olympic gold and 4th+ place can be separated by a fraction of a second because everyone is amazing.
If we are banning girls with high T shall we also ban the tall ones too?
You are being trained to whine about fake problems
It’s definitely a real problem, but certainly not nearly as big as it’s made out to be given how few trans athletes there really are.
No. It’s not. How people are going to be able to afford food, is a problem. How people are going to be able to afford housing, is a problem. How are people going to be able to pay off their debt. You know…real problems affecting literally hundreds of thousands of Americans…not whether or not an extremely marginalized group can play a highschool sport. You are a pawn being used to erode our rights, and you play right into it.
Do you have any idea just how expensive it would be to do testing on every athlete?
There were 7.8 million student athletes in the US last year and the average cost of a testosterone test is 70 - 100 bucks. Even using conservative estimations, you’d need to spend half a BILLION dollars PER YEAR to accomplish this. And the worst part? Do you know how many of those 7.8 million were trans students? Five.
Not Five thousand. Not Fifty. Five.
You are being distracted and lied to.
I am not saying we should, but if apparently it needs to be done, we should rethink categories and classes more broadly, not in “boys” or “girls” terms.
