Summary

Progressive lawmakers view the online praise for the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson as a sign of deep public frustration with the U.S. healthcare system.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez called it a “wake-up call” highlighting resentment over financial and health precarity, while Sen. Bernie Sanders emphasized that anger reflects the belief that healthcare is a human right.

Though all lawmakers condemned the murder, some progressives argue it underscores systemic issues like claim denials.

Calls for healthcare reform have intensified amid public outrage.

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    Unless lawmakers get their heads out of their asses and do something useful, the only change that will come from this “wake-up call” is that companies will try to obfuscate their executive roster and those executives will travel with a security detail paid for by denying more insurance claims.

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    It’s nothing unless it happens directly to them, meaning the CEOs/wealthy. One death is a one-off. They’ll review or “enhance” their corporate security procedures which will consist of: telling already abused and overworked front line workers to watch some corporate security video and who to report suspicious people to. Tell middle managers to keep an eye on employees for suspicious behavior. Upper management will create the plan and worry unnecessarily it might be them targeted because they’re this close to actually being important. And the C-suite might actually get an occasional bodyguard, guard at home, or block access to the c-suite unless approved by said guard. Maybe. Most of them won’t GAF except a minor twinge of worry washed away by their next $75 glass of fine wine at a Michelin starred restaurant.

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    Who’s waking up? We’re already seeing the end of this news cycle. People are pre-occupied with the stupid drones in NJ and losing interest over this. I would nearly guarantee we see no long-term changes to our health care system. The public operates in 2 week outrages. It would take a longer attention span to actually fix something. Someone’d have to dismantle the corrupt lobbying system in DC. Reminder: this year ALONE companies spend more than $130 million on lobbying in DC. The politicians don’t work for us, the people, they work for the health companies and their lobbyists. This is business as usual.

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    Ok so what are they going to do about it? Rant on twitter? Wake up call for what? To do what? What’s the message? What’s the call for action?

    When you’re in politics all the solutions awfully tend to look like politics as usual it seems.

    We know how much will get done in healthcare with the next administration. I’m looking for someone to call for a general strike over this. Some actions that is not just some hope and prayer bill that will never get passed.

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    Unfortunately, nothing will ever happen. Especially since Republicans have no interest in universal healthcare and hold every position of power now. It’s all about money.

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    We need to stop the needless CEO killings by switching to universal healthcare! Think of all the CEO lives we could save by doing this!

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    Great, if we need any slightly miffed letters sent to people we disagree with, we’ll call you.

    Useless virtue signallers.

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    Unless you watch Fox, or use X, because remember kids CEO’s have a duty to make money for shareholders.

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    Progressive lawmakers view the online praise for the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson as a sign of deep public frustration with the U.S. healthcare system.

    It’s not just the healthcare system

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        Thank you…

        Wtf are you saying “the belief” that health care is a human right?? You can go believe in your God or your orange man, health care IS a human right and “believing” in it is ridiculous…

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      At risk of going off topic, it wouldn’t matter of Bernie or AOC or someone to the left of them had run for every open position.

      The Democrat’s problem was campaigning on a high horse like its 1950, instead of seeding propaganda in social media. It’s the delivery, not the message, and they are going to keep losing until we get a “liberal Trump” shameless enough to break that mould.

      The wake-up call for me was watching post election interviews of ostensibly educated college students from fairly liberal campuses… and now, there is no govt incentive to reign that in.

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        It’s both the delivery and the message. Saying it’s only the delivery implies anyone was every going to vote for the Democrats’ “everything is fine” position when everything is decidedly not fine.

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        What exactly are you basing this on? Harris ran a terrible campaign with the usual Democratic half-measure policy proposals and lost. That should hardly be a surprise. There is no evidence to say that a populist Democrat like Bernie or AOC couldn’t win.

        What if Harris had made the whole campaign into a referendum on the broken healthcare system? It turns out that that’s where the Republican voters she was trying to woo were hiding all along.

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          What if Harris had made the whole campaign into a referendum on the broken healthcare system?

          Wouldn’t have mattered. Trump would have just countered with a similar populist angle, and by the time it was filtered down to voters, it would still be pro-Trump.

          To be more specific about the college students, I saw them coo and rave about how “strong” Trump feels, or list off all these (seemingly) blatant lies about policy or what either candidate going to do, a few I recognized online, and again this is ostensibly a well connected and “smart” demographic. At that point, I realized their world is totally shaped by what their favorite feeds and influencers tell them, and this is a space being won by the GOP:

          https://www.axios.com/2024/11/18/news-influencers-conservative-tiktok-youtube

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            I’m seeing a lot of right wing propaganda agents having their audiences turn on them over the shooting.

            The Democrats would have had to do it right, and I do admit they wouldn’t, but I think it could have made a difference. Unfortunately, Republicans always have a villain to direct anger to, while Democrats are allergic to anything more than mild criticism of the oligarchs.

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        I actually kinda feel that someone like Bernie may have had enough youth appeal to have a somewhat organic version of that happen. During the 2016 primaries, a decent amount of memes and online talk were spawned by him/his campaign.

        Definitely agree that delivery is extremely important though, campaigning on helping workers while appearing elite and out of touch just makes people consider you a liar or to be looking down at people.

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    Is it though? Cause a lot of progressives vote like they are asleep. (I say this as a progressive mind you…)

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      Progressives are the most politically engaged segment in the US, even ahead of evangelicals. Progressives are most likely to vote, to donate, and to volunteer for campaigns. This is true despite the fact that Democrats never give them much to vote for.

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      Do you mean “Progressives” or “progressives.” It’s like saying “Democrat” or “democratic.” There’s a stance and then there’s boots on the ground, populist minded, human focused ideology.

      When any movement’s name is coopted by its uppercase, it’s effectively diminished.