• witx@lemmy.sdf.org
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    8 hours ago

    Is this sub-populated mostly by Facebook people? Some of the answers really feel like it.

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      7 hours ago

      All these answers are so killjoy and boring. Like yeah we should strive to make our own planet better, but why not also do this? Building habitats on other worlds doesn’t prevent us from caring for this one.

      Plus maybe trying to make a liveable environment in space can give us new insights in preserving the one at home. Like how solar panels have come from space exploration.

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        7 hours ago

        Why would people want to focus more on things we can actually do right now and would improve our lives instead of completely unfeasible pipe dreams? I don’t understand.

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          Isn’t there space for both? Why not try multiple avenues? Why have this negative view on everything? Wouldn’t you say the airplane and the car have tremendously improved humanity, even with all its downsides? Or the cellphone?

          I bet at the time of their inventions you would be opposing it because “billionaires are bad and this industry is going to explore the working class”. Guess what? Yes billionaires are bad and explore people and you (all of us) should be fighting against that, not against scientific and engineering inovation.

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            2 hours ago

            Every industry exploits the working class under capitalism.

            Are we colonizing planets or building habitats in space right now or any time in the perceivable future, though? No, so beyond a fun thought experiment or sci-fi material, it’s not an idea worth giving any serious thought towards.

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              2 hours ago

              Right because innovation materializes itself when we want … We just flicked our fingers and airplane, cellphone and others just appeared.

              Who are you to tell what we should or should not pursue?

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        7 hours ago

        All these answers are so killjoy and boring.

        Yes, fantasizing about billionaires fixing everything by making good on their bullshit marketing pitches is very exciting to credulous people.

        Building habitats on other worlds doesn’t prevent us from caring for this one.

        If you believe that there’s some magic means to have zero emissions launches into space that are in any way self-sustained without further launches to keep throwing resources after spent resources from an increasingly polluted, depleted, and warming Earth, sure, you can huff that hopium deep and hard and ignore the worsening material reality all around you.

        Plus maybe trying to make a liveable environment in space can give us new insights in preserving the one at home.

        You’ve bought deeply into billionaire bullshit and their bogus promises, especially as privatized space travel in the west becomes increasingly vanity tourism and marketing stunts. The accomplishments that such companies’ underpaid and overworked workers achieve are not for the common good, nor can they be because they are publicly subsidized private companies seeking to maximize profits and expand their own venture capital appeal, and nothing more.

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          You seem to be letting your hatred for Musk confuse you about space exploration. NASA and other governmental agencies do very important work when it comes to space exploration

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              Meh I dislike Musk as well but I don’t let that cloud my judgement of his companies or science/engineering in general.

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                I don’t let that cloud my judgement of his companies

                That says a lot about you, then. The guy’s a fascist but you don’t care because so-true muh bazingamobiles and space crap!

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              1 hour ago

              My grandpa helped design and test the tech for ballistic missiles while working as a private contractor for a now defunct aerospace corporation under contract with NASA.

              If he was still alive I would say he gets the wall too.