We’ve been anticipating it for years,1 and it’s finally happening. Google is finally killing uBlock Origin – with a note on their web store stating that the …

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    My dad used to watch TV and I always wondered why given how shit it was, nothing but ads. He told me about how great it used to be when he was a kid. I can’t help think the same thing is happening now with the internet. It’s dying. It’s already shit compared to 10 years ago and I only see it getting worse. Our generations will cling to it remembering what it used to be though, just like he did.

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    If the other main Chromium based browsers can figure out (or keep in the instance of having their own extension stores) how to support for V2 extensions. Then it would be easier to recommend replacing Chrome to normies and other folks with those options. As one of the main issues comes down to lots of sites (especially stuff like school or work) doing the modern version of IE and are coded to really only work with Chrome.

    I was advising customers to just use Edge if they needed Chrome for those reasons. And a lot of them did since it meant not installing extra programs. Though it is currently hard to recommend Edge due to MS seeming to find more and more “features” to add that make shit really annoying and scummy. It is like they are trying so hard to make it not worth using at all. So Brave and Vivaldi are the new options I tell people about.

    Brave’s main downside (IMO) is the crypto stuff maybe confusing/pointless for folks. Vivaldi’s main downside (and upside for users that love it) is how overwhelming levels of customization settings. But they both don’t have their own extension stores. Opera could also work since they have their own extension store. I hate how it and the GX version love to automatically set themselves to launch on Windows startup (fuck all of them that try to do this as well).

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      You don’t think a tarball dump is harder to investigate than a CVS repository? I never claimed it was impossible to investigate further, just that it was harder to.

      Where is the misinformation?

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        But that’s not what you claimed. Direct quote from the article (bold emphasis is mine):

        Vivaldi users point out that the built in blocker is noticably worse than uBlock Origin, with some guessing that Vivaldi doesn’t fully support uBlock Origin filterlists (Vivaldi is closed source, so it’s harder for users to investigate).

        You clearly implied that the reason Vivaldi’s source code regarding ad-blocking is harder for users to investigate is because it’s closed source. This is not true.

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          But it is, because making users download a 2GB repo and looking through the code, or crafting custom filter rules to investigate how rules work is harder than looking at a hosted source code repository (like what Brave has).

          Where is the misinformation?

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            (Vivaldi is closed source, so it’s harder for users to investigate).

            Please show me where you explained that Vivaldi’s source code is harder to investigate because “users need to download a 2 GB repo” or a “tarball dump”.

            Is English your first language? Do you understand the definition of “so” in the sentence you typed?

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              Please show me where you explained that Vivaldi’s source code is harder to investigate because “users need to download a 2 GB repo” or a “tarball dump”.

              I can see why you think this is not entirely implied. But I also don’t think that it’s incumbent on them to have laid it out with such specificity. You can read this reference to closed source in the most charitable way as alluding to the whole motley of things that render closed source projects less accessible.

              It takes a little squinting, sure, but the internet is a better place when we read things charitably, and I don’t think such fine grain differences rise to the level of straight up misinformation.

              I mean, there are some real whoppers around here on Lemmy. There’s no shortage of crazy people saying crazy things, I just don’t think this rises to that level.

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              I’m asking you what the misinformation is. Is this harder to investigate because the software is closed source? In my mind undoubtedly yes. I know it was harder for ME to investigate because it wasn’t open source - no open issue trackers, SCM repository, whatever.

              So please tell me why what I said was misinformation - I’m really curious.

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    I finally switched to Firefox when I couldn’t remove the ads on my casual browsing. Now I’m told Firefox isn’t cash money either? Wtf is going on here.

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    uBlock may have enough support to start their own maintained fork, and be the upstream for all the other quiet browsers. That dude is like THE ONE GUY that makes chromium sane, and doesn’t even take donations?!

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    What pisses me off is seeing more and more “You need to upgrade your browser for this site!” when using Firefox.

    Having to use a spoof header gets frustrating frequently too.

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    I love how they gave a TL;DR right at the beginning of the article, it made me stay and read the rest out of respect for the author.

    Google lives of the ads (among the things), of course a browser they develop is going to screw the add-ons that block ads. Solution: avoid google if you want an ad-free internet.

    Edit: typo

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    You want free and private internet - Ok You don’t want ads - Ok So who is going to give you something for free and why?

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      Funny as the internet was designed as being free.

      Maybe just educate yourself a little. In general, not just about that.

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      Ok So who is going to give you something for free and why?

      People who value the ability to do publish information, or engage in personal expression, for starters.

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      I don’t mind ads so much. What I don’t want in invasive tracking and collection of every scrap of data they can to push ads on you. Give some dumb ads based on the damned contents of the page and I would be fine. But no, ads is basically a synonym for tracking these days.

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      I knew it will be downvoted, but you have to realize, nothing is free in this world kids, I don’t like it too, but it is what it is.

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        posted on social media developed for free using a standard specced out for free running on servers people are allowing you to use for free…

        Whether or not current models are sustainable is beside the point. Obviously they aren’t, ad blockers weren’t developed for shits and giggles but to stop increasingly intrusive practices.

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        You’re paying for the air you breathe? Lots of things are free. Capitalists who want you to pay for what you shouldn’t will try to convince you otherwise.

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        nothing is free

        Plenty of things can be and are free at the point of service/point of consumption/utilization.

        That’s all they need to be. And there just has to be enough willpower to do that from enough people.

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        This world is what ever we make it, and literally everything we need to live is free, from water to food to shelter. The earth literally just does all that.