• Blackbeard@lemmy.world
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    Like you, we wish for the return of the Republican Party of Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole, John McCain, and Mitt Romney, a party animated by actual ideas.

    Emphasis mine. They’re pining for the party of Bush because it was grounded in truth and ideas.

    If you’re saying that Kamala will restore the GOP, then it seems that the American people will never be prioritized. In which case, we should all leave and emigrate to Scandinavia where their people are treated like human beings rather than servants

    How on Earth did you get that from this endorsement? In fact, they said exactly the opposite:

    only Trump’s final defeat will allow your party to return to health

    That whole paragraph is prefaced with “If you’re a conservative who can’t abide Harris’s tax and immigration policies”. They’re not talking to you, they’re addressing conflicted conservatives.

    You really should have read it more carefully.

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      They’re pining for the party of Bush because it was grounded in truth and ideas.

      It was WHAT!?

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      Bush lied about Iraq having WMDs and oversaw the patriot act, Guantanamo Bay waterboarding, and Abu Ghraib. He stole the election in 2000 in Bush v Gore. He was a fascist and damaged the US worse than Trump

      If the US won’t ever have single payer then we should emigrate to Denmark. Why would I want to live here?

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        What the hell are you talking about? Did you even read the endorsement? It doesn’t even mention Bush.

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          What was McCains stance on all of the above?

          Pining for the party of Bush is pining for evil and diminished living standards

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            None of that has anything to do with Kamala Harris. Again, what the hell are you talking about? That paragraph is addressing CONSERVATIVES.

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              You’re saying Kamala will help restore the GOP to the party of Bush and McCain. That is a terrible thing to admit. The neoconservatives are monsters who harmed the country, to say nothing of the innocents abroad who were tortured and murdered

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                Where the eff is this BS from? They clearly said if you cut off the toxic poisoned head spewing hate and venom, the Republican Party can rebuild around ideas, policy, maybe even around morality (doubt). If you’re a conservative, that ought to be a good thing. If you’re pro-democracy, the renewal of two sane choices battling for ideas ought to be a good thing.

                I’m sure I also would disagree with those ideas, but I welcome the competition, I welcome the possibility of respecting g our national leaders.

                All I can say is that when Mitt Romney talks family values, he means actual family values. When Ronald Reagan said he’d trickle down on you, you could smell the urine. When Ross Perot talked about corporatism, he meant it

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                  If you’re pro-democracy, the renewal of two sane choices battling for ideas ought to be a good thing.

                  I’m sure I also would disagree with those ideas, but I welcome the competition, I welcome the possibility of respecting g our national leaders.

                  If you’re pro democracy then the restoration of the pre Trump GOP is a terrible thing. They were always this bad on policy, if not worse re: Iraq. It’s just now Trump has taken the mask off.

                  It is in the interest of the American people for the GOP to permanently stay Trumpist, or get even more extreme. They can’t win national elections when they are like this. Whereas the neocons and the Bushes are capable of winning. And they’re drastically more effective and competent and harmful than Trump

                  If Kamala does anything to restore the GOP then she is a fool. Liz Cheney is competent which makes her more dangerous than Trump

                  “Welcoming the competition” is insanely out of touch. This isn’t a game. This isn’t a show. This is about power and how the American people are treated. We have terrible standards of living for a first world country. The GOP would make it even worse. Doing anything to strengthen them needs to be opposed. Otherwise we will never have the quality of life of Denmark. And if thats the case then every American with a brain should just emigrate to Scandinavia now