There used to be a Kbin instance called feddit.online, which was shut down. @Jerry@hear-me.social just announced on Mastodon, that he brought feddit.online back to life, this time using PieFed. PieFed is a pretty neat alternative to Lemmy and Kbin/Mbin, created by @rimu@piefed.social and of course it’s fully free and open source on Codeberg: https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi
It has some cool features like “Topics”, which are basically groups of multiple communities that you can view all at once (similar to these Lemmy feature requests: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3071 https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1113).

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    2 months ago

    That’s great!!

    I love PieFed - hopefully this instance will be a success! It’s nice to see something other than the flagship. PieFed seems pretty flexible, so it’ll be fun to see what another instance makes of it.

    I would warmly recommend checking it out!
    (That’s https://feddit.online and https://piefed.social)

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    2 months ago

    I migrated to the flagship PieFed instance a while ago and haven’t regretted it at all. This place rocks! I would love it if there was an app though, not a big fan of PWAs lol. If I was smarter, I’d try to make one myself. Very exciting to see more instances popping up!

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    2 months ago

    Good to see another public PieFed instance. Any idea if this one allows subscribing to NSFW communities? They’re entirely blocked by piefed.social, unfortunately.

    Nothing against @rimu (or any other individual admin) for not wanting to deal with having NSFW content cached on his server, but I find the collective prudishness of the threadiverse disheartening. I think it hinders our growth, and fosters a worse culture overall. It’s kind of ironic that Reddit, for all it’s other flaws, is more sex-positive than the threadiverse is.

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        It’s not that I want the threadiverse to deliver porn to me. I’m capable of finding that myself. It’s that I like sex-positive culture and think it’s a good thing for humanity overall.

        As I noted, my complaint isn’t about any specific instance admin. Individually, no one should be required to host or cache anything that they don’t want to. However, the overall trend of blocking NSFW communities is still concerning, and we should advocate for admins to not do that where feasible.

        The design decision to hide NSFW communities from logged-out users also plays a part here. Community discovery is bad enough as it is, and this makes it even worse. Last I checked, lemmynsfw was having to maintain their own patch to fix it, and keep updating it as new lemmy versions are released. Kbin and PieFed also copied this behavior, and I assume Mbin inherited it.

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          2 months ago

          If this is so important to you, you are still very much free to start your own instance and see how far it goes.

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            I’ve considered it, but my skillset isn’t really suited to it as a solo project. I can write code, and I have a reasonable understanding of the human factors side of things, but my IT skills are lacking. I’d be happy to join a team of like-minded people undertaking such a project, though.

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              The problem is not code. The problem is that no one wants to take this responsibility. Every one wants to talk about supportive they are on sex positivity until some men in uniform knocks on their doors because they are running a website that is available for minors all around the world.

              Also, I don’t even want to get in the discussion of “sex positivity” being associated with “easily available porn”. Like you said, porn is easy to find and I really doubt that the someone who is savvy enough to use Lemmy would have trouble to know where it is.

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                Every one wants to talk about supportive they are on sex positivity until some men in uniform knocks on their doors because they are running a website that is available for minors all around the world.

                Are you speaking from first-hand experience, or is this conjecture? At least in the US, complying with the law isn’t that difficult.

                Also, I don’t even want to get in the discussion of “sex positivity” being associated with “easily available porn”.

                That’s an odd way to avoid discussing it. Do you think the availability of porn (or prohibition thereof) within an online space has no effect on what kind of culture develops there?

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                  Do you think the availability of porn within an online space has no effect on what kind of culture develops there?

                  Of course it does have an effect, but there is a difference between “can be found” and “should be encouraged to be treated on equal footing as any other community forum”.

                  Much like “absolute freedom of speech” platforms that inevitably end up catering to people who want to say only repulsive things without repercussion, what do you think will happen if you create an online space and put a big billboard saying “here you will always be free to share your NSFW content”?

                  Content discovery of porn should not be as easy and it should not be trivialized under the pretense of “sex positivity”. One can have an absolutely open mind about sex and sexuality while still wanting to keep a clear boundary of when/how/whom to talk about it.

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    Perfect! I was looking for a PieFed instance for my next alt.

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    This is good news that the instance is back up again. But as an Outsiders pov, I’m going to be super hesitant on wanting to interact with the instance since it’s already proven to be shut down once.

    Being said, I love to see people monopolizing on better technology that have more feature sets, and honestly it looks pretty dang cool

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    2 months ago

    Definitely not for me. The UI looks worse than Lemmy, which I already can’t get behind.

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      PieFed has some design principles, including being accessible on lower-end devices and for those with unreliable bandwidth, which mean that it’s default UI is never going to look like apps which involve downloading a sizable chunk of Typescript.

      I’m okay with its look. Partly because it’s themeable, and there’s a theme called ‘Card Shadow’ which looks more modern imo. And partly because Lemmy can feel quite slow showing 20 posts at a time, whereas PieFed throws 100 at a time. And also because there will eventually be an API, allowing people to view it how they want (similar to Lemmy - lemmy-ui is maybe not that great, but there’s other frontends which I think are an improvement)