• @shottymcb@lemm.ee
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    12 months ago

    you cannot get positive change electorally

    You certainly can, by actually fucking voting. Not in a single election, granted, but over time. Currently we’re choosing between fascist theocracy and democracy, because people who don’t want to live in a fascist theocracy won’t fucking vote. When they do vote, and fascist theocracy is no longer a viable position, we get to choose between corrupt capitalist democracy or social democracy.

    • @Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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      12 months ago

      I do vote. I have voted Democrat, and I will lilely still vote Democrat. Me voting Democrat will not make the Democrats move to the left, they will continue to be right-wingers because there is no leftist party and no reason for the Democrats to move left when they get their funding from large businesses and wealthy Capitalists.

      We are choosing between fascism and liberalism. The reason this is an issue is not because “leftists don’t vote,”* it’s because the only parties that will ever be in power are parties that court wealthy Capitalists.

      Even Social Democracy, while certainly better, would still repeat the same Capitalist decay. I would still vote for a Social Democrat over a Democrat, but I would still push for outside pressure like striking, unionizing, and straining the system so the will of the people will be upheld.