Hahah if only I had time for every one of them, but by now I’ve come to the conclusion it’s easier to spread propaganda than it is to counter it. Brandolini’s law helping the far right yet again, as usual.
Apparently you can host Putin’s leftist opposition for decades, dump one of them the day he sides with Russia in the Ukraine war, and you’ll still be labeled pro Russia & anti Uxraine. What is even the point of arguing.
I wish people could grasp that if LFI or Mélenchon were pro Russia in any way or form, most of us.ground level activists would leave them imnediately without looking back. Radical leftists are mostly all pro-peace and anti imperialists as our core values, two things that are not compatible with Russia. If only tankies supported him, LFI wouldn’t be the biggest organic movement in the french left since the 1930s.
As I mentioned in my other comment, Mélanchon is moderating what he says as the election draws closer, but by saying that there should be a vote in the Donbas to determine which country it belongs to, he is inherently legitimizing Russia’s illegal claim to it.
Calling for withdrawing from NATO and involvement in ‘American wars’ inherently implies that the war in Ukraine is one of those wars, something that couldn’t be further from the truth after the U.S. has abandoned Ukraine since the start of Trump’s presidency.
I might agree with most of Mélanchon’s platform, but unconditional support for Ukraine is a requirement that must not be weakened.
Depuis le meeting tenu au Bourget ce samedi 7 novembre, des attaques coordonnées attribuent à Jean-Luc Mélenchon une position sur la guerre en Ukraine qui n’a jamais été la sienne. Pour avoir dit que toute hypothétique cession de territoire ukrainien devrait être validée par le vote de toutes les populations concernées, le candidat de la France insoumise est accusé de souhaiter ces cessions de territoire ukrainien à la Russie, donc d’être la « voix de Vladimir Poutine ».
I don’t think he’s directly regurgitating the Kremlin’s talking points, but he is still helping to legitimize an outcome where the Donbas joins Russia by suggesting that the people living there could legitimately vote to join Russia. There are no legitimate means for Russia to annex Ukrainian territory, and any vote conducted in occupied territory to legitimize such an annexation would not be fair or free. The above quote from the LFI statement directly references holding such a vote. If such an annexation were to remain in place after an armistice, neither France nor any other Western country should recognize any such territory as being anything but Ukrainian.
S’agissant des autres aspects relatifs à la guerre en Ukraine, la position de la France insoumise est constante depuis 2022. La France insoumise a systématiquement soutenu, au Parlement européen notamment, les textes et plans de soutien à l’Ukraine pour lui donner la capacité de se défendre, aussi longtemps que celle-ci fera l’objet de l’agression illégale russe. Les seules exceptions, assumées, renvoient aux votes impliquant la livraison de missiles longue portée à l’Ukraine – livraisons refusées depuis 4 ans par l’Allemagne, par exemple ; à l’envoi de forces combattantes sur le sol ukrainien ; aux textes prévoyant l’adhésion de l’Ukraine à l’Union européenne au risque d’une aggravation sans précédent du dumping social qui fracture déjà l’UE.
Furthermore, by denying Ukraine access to long-range missiles, their platform is assuming that Ukraine could somehow bring Russia to the negotiating table by simply slowing down Russian territorial annexation, rather than waging an effective war that diverts Russian resources away from its war effort.
Troops on the ground are not meant to wage war against Russia, but rather help defend Ukraine’s border after any peace deal. Without a substantial force backing Ukrainian sovereignty, nothing will stop Russia from invading Ukraine again. To further that end and assist in the country’s economic recovery, the accession of Ukraine to the EU is also essential. Doing so also benefits EU member states by substantially expanding the tariff-free customer base for its companies and shoring up access to natural resources from a country politically aligned with the EU, rather than less reliable international partners such as the U.S. or China.
Hahah if only I had time for every one of them, but by now I’ve come to the conclusion it’s easier to spread propaganda than it is to counter it. Brandolini’s law helping the far right yet again, as usual.
Apparently you can host Putin’s leftist opposition for decades, dump one of them the day he sides with Russia in the Ukraine war, and you’ll still be labeled pro Russia & anti Uxraine. What is even the point of arguing.
I wish people could grasp that if LFI or Mélenchon were pro Russia in any way or form, most of us.ground level activists would leave them imnediately without looking back. Radical leftists are mostly all pro-peace and anti imperialists as our core values, two things that are not compatible with Russia. If only tankies supported him, LFI wouldn’t be the biggest organic movement in the french left since the 1930s.
As I mentioned in my other comment, Mélanchon is moderating what he says as the election draws closer, but by saying that there should be a vote in the Donbas to determine which country it belongs to, he is inherently legitimizing Russia’s illegal claim to it.
Calling for withdrawing from NATO and involvement in ‘American wars’ inherently implies that the war in Ukraine is one of those wars, something that couldn’t be further from the truth after the U.S. has abandoned Ukraine since the start of Trump’s presidency.
I might agree with most of Mélanchon’s platform, but unconditional support for Ukraine is a requirement that must not be weakened.
What vote in Donbas? The one Barrot accused Mélenchon of wanting, which was repeated as fact by all the media?
https://lafranceinsoumise.fr/2026/11/09/mise-au-point-sur-la-position-de-la-france-insoumise-et-son-candidat-sur-la-guerre-en-ukraine/
I don’t think he’s directly regurgitating the Kremlin’s talking points, but he is still helping to legitimize an outcome where the Donbas joins Russia by suggesting that the people living there could legitimately vote to join Russia. There are no legitimate means for Russia to annex Ukrainian territory, and any vote conducted in occupied territory to legitimize such an annexation would not be fair or free. The above quote from the LFI statement directly references holding such a vote. If such an annexation were to remain in place after an armistice, neither France nor any other Western country should recognize any such territory as being anything but Ukrainian.
Furthermore, by denying Ukraine access to long-range missiles, their platform is assuming that Ukraine could somehow bring Russia to the negotiating table by simply slowing down Russian territorial annexation, rather than waging an effective war that diverts Russian resources away from its war effort.
Troops on the ground are not meant to wage war against Russia, but rather help defend Ukraine’s border after any peace deal. Without a substantial force backing Ukrainian sovereignty, nothing will stop Russia from invading Ukraine again. To further that end and assist in the country’s economic recovery, the accession of Ukraine to the EU is also essential. Doing so also benefits EU member states by substantially expanding the tariff-free customer base for its companies and shoring up access to natural resources from a country politically aligned with the EU, rather than less reliable international partners such as the U.S. or China.