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  • BestBouclettes
    111·
    18 days ago

    What the fuck are you even on about ? Leave retirees alone. Most of them are living under the poverty line. A handful of them are extremely rich, but that’s about it.

    There’s also literally nothing these people can do about that. It’s the government’s fault, no one else’s. 10 years of policies all aimed to make rich people richer, cutting everything left and right, except the military and corporate handouts.

    The kids have rats in the classrooms, literal fucking rats. In the summer they have 40+ degrees in there, and not enough chairs and toilet paper for everyone. It’s the same in all our public services and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. We have poverty levels higher than 30 years ago, people can’t afford to eat, to go to the doctor, to heat their homes.

    We riot because our most basic rights are being trampled and fucked with. We tried talking, voting, being peaceful about it, and the only answers we got were disdain, more and more institutional violence, and the goddamn riot police. You should probably learn a thing or two, instead of licking the boot on your neck.

    • ikt@aussie.zoneOP
      214·
      18 days ago

      What the fuck are you even on about ? Leave retirees alone. Most of them are living under the poverty line. A handful of them are extremely rich, but that’s about it.

      🤣

      They are poor and living under the poverty line 😭

      Delusional!

      Why French pensioners pocket more than workers

      A generous state pension and early retirements are contributing to a €3.4 trillion national debt and growing economic crisis in France, writes Jack Simpson

      https://www.thetimes.com/money/article/why-french-pensioners-pocket-even-more-than-workers-j9z9l3zrp

      The French economy has a boomer problem and is spending way too much on pensions

      Before resigning from his nine-month stint as French prime minister, François Bayrou had claimed that if France failed to cut its public deficit, young people would pay the price “for the sake of the comfort of boomers”.

      Now there’s a choice quote chefs kiss mwa!

      https://theconversation.com/the-french-economy-has-a-boomer-problem-and-is-spending-way-too-much-on-pensions-264912

      It shows that 32% of the education ⁠ministry’s budget, or €28.5 billion ($32 billion), ends up with the special pension account that ​funds state civil servants’ pensions.

      https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/french-ministries-pension-costs-crowd-out-public-services-spending-report-says-2026-10-13/

      Your pensions are fucking you, EVERYONE saw this coming and apparently you decided to do nothing about it except increase immigration massively and then riot for more government handouts

      It’s the government’s fault, no one else’s.

      Oh really? Last I saw people were protesting to reduce the pension back DOWN from 62 to 60, that is INSANITY

      Government spending remains well above its peers in the politically sensitive realm of social protections, particularly pensions and healthcare, while tepid economic growth has failed to compensate.

      https://www.cnbc.com/2026/10/13/france-2027-budget-debt.html

      10 years of policies all aimed to make rich people richer, cutting everything left and right, except the military and corporate handouts.

      LOL, you have the highest government spending in the west!

      Government spending in France was last recorded at 57.2 percent of GDP in 2025 . Government Spending to GDP in France averaged 54.16 percent of GDP from 1978 until 2025, reaching an all time high of 61.70 percent of GDP in 2020 and a record low of 45.20 percent of GDP in 1978. source: EUROSTAT

      You are in late stage socialism, cannot spend money you do not have

      The kids have rats in the classrooms, literal fucking rats.

      This is a completely valid reason to protest, you seem to be attacking the wrong source of the problem, france fucking failed to predict that… old people would get old… and “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”, can’t believe we saw this coming only 50 years ago…

      Anyway good luck, I’m sure it’s 100% entirely the governments fault and has nothing to do with the people at all, you’re innocent

      make sure to blame capitalism as well, that’d be a cherry on top

      • BestBouclettes
        111·
        18 days ago

        That’s a fuckton of bullshit to unpack and I don’t have time for that. Apparently you know our politics better than we do. I’ll just go quickly over your points

        • Bayrou is a former prime minister, vastly responsible for the current situation.
        • Macron caters to the retirees because the vote for him en masse.
        • We have a revenue problem, we can fix it with a multitude of ways that the government refuses to even consider.
        • Our spending is high but stable and has been somewhat stable for the past 50 years, like your source shows. It’s the revenues that have made a complete nosedive, thanks to Macron.
        • With proper taxation and redistribution we can largely afford to keep our retirement age at 60. Yes, the system needs to change to make it fair for everyone, and that will include cutting spending for richer retirees. But in no way raising retirement age is an absolute necessity.
        • And you seem to have been caught in the classic propaganda of the average pension. The average is an absolutely worthless metric here, we do have a handful of extremely high pensions paid, but the median pension is barely enough to survive for most people.

        And I can’t believe that someone in 2026, would unironically use a fucking Thatcher quote about socialism. Her, Reagan and Keynes are the reason we’re in this fucking mess worldwide.

        Proper wealth redistribution is key to a functional society, and France saw its portion of millionaires and billionaires explode in the past 10 years, while every single one of our public services crumbles, and poverty explodes. We have departments without clean drinking water for fucks sake. Capitalism cannot work if everyone wins.

        • ikt@aussie.zoneOP
          29·
          18 days ago

          Apparently you know our politics better than we do

          I spend too much time researching things and France is a uniquely entertaining putain! merci beaucoup! I waste many hours reading about it

          Bayrou is a former prime minister, vastly responsible for the current situation.

          He was only in for like 3 months wasn’t he? Macron’s failed snap election fuck up gave rise to what is uniquely french, 3 incompetent political parties ruining your country all at once! :D I loved it how you couldn’t agree on budget cuts, left and right kept joining up to delete prime ministers, so dumb :D

          I will try to be short but essentially you are not addressing the core issue, I’ve seen other french people doing this same dance, you always seem to avoid the harsh reality that you cannot spend what you don’t have

          Proper wealth redistribution

          You’ve tried it before, remember how well it went?

          “The reform clearly damaged France’s reputation and competitiveness,” said Jorg Stegemann, the head of the executive search firm Kennedy Executive. “It clearly has become harder to attract international senior managers to come to France than it was.”

          Finance ministry studies showed that despite all the publicity, the sums obtained from the supertax were meagre, standing at €260m in 2013 and €160m in 2014, and affecting 1,000 staff in 470 companies. Over the same period, the budget deficit soared to €84.7bn.

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/31/france-drops-75percent-supertax

          etcetc

          https://qz.com/279900/a-short-history-of-frances-battles-over-taxing-the-wealthy

          etcetc

          You are but one country that has tried many times to tax the rich to save the country, most of the time the country has to give up and simply reduce spending somehow

          A bit like: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-18/ndis-changes-pass-after-labor-strikes-deal-with-coalition/107051964

          The Coalition voted with Labor in the Senate on Tuesday evening to pass the sweeping changes, which are intended to curb the structural bloat of a scheme that costs more than $50 billion annually.

          The overhaul is expected to save an estimated $37.8 billion over the next four years alone.

          We are also going into debt so we are reducing our outgoings, this is how a normal government functions

          It appears that France has largely covered its eyes for the last 40 years instead

          With proper taxation and redistribution we can largely afford to keep our retirement age at 60. Yes, the system needs to change to make it fair for everyone, and that will include cutting spending for richer retirees. But in no way raising retirement age is an absolute necessity.

          Most pension ages around the world are going up based on the simple economics

          More older people = higher government costs (pensions/healthcare)

          Less young people = lower government income (less workers/less tax)

          Not a complicated scenario but apparently the french are unique and know something we all don’t

          Our spending is high but stable and has been somewhat stable for the past 50 years,

          High and Stable and also unsustainable !

      • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
        41·
        18 days ago

        You seem to be confused. You think money is what constrains an economy rather than resources and productive capacity. How do you think money is added to the economy?

        • ikt@aussie.zoneOP
          27·
          18 days ago

          You seem to be confused. What made you think that I said anything about “money is what constrains an economy”, I have strictly been speaking about government spending.

          • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            15 days ago

            How is money added to the economy?

            What gives money its value?

            You need to be able to answer these questions or you have no place talking about economics.

            • ikt@aussie.zoneOP
              12·
              15 days ago

              absolutely not lmao! 🤣

              i put in lengthy fact based and sourced replies and get bullshit left wing ideology in response, im not playing this dumb game again

                • ikt@aussie.zoneOP
                  12·
                  14 days ago

                  if you are unable to formulate an argument that’s on you not me

                  there’s no need for you to reply with another one line nothingburger btw, just take the L and move on