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  • BestBouclettes
    111·
    19 days ago

    That’s a fuckton of bullshit to unpack and I don’t have time for that. Apparently you know our politics better than we do. I’ll just go quickly over your points

    • Bayrou is a former prime minister, vastly responsible for the current situation.
    • Macron caters to the retirees because the vote for him en masse.
    • We have a revenue problem, we can fix it with a multitude of ways that the government refuses to even consider.
    • Our spending is high but stable and has been somewhat stable for the past 50 years, like your source shows. It’s the revenues that have made a complete nosedive, thanks to Macron.
    • With proper taxation and redistribution we can largely afford to keep our retirement age at 60. Yes, the system needs to change to make it fair for everyone, and that will include cutting spending for richer retirees. But in no way raising retirement age is an absolute necessity.
    • And you seem to have been caught in the classic propaganda of the average pension. The average is an absolutely worthless metric here, we do have a handful of extremely high pensions paid, but the median pension is barely enough to survive for most people.

    And I can’t believe that someone in 2026, would unironically use a fucking Thatcher quote about socialism. Her, Reagan and Keynes are the reason we’re in this fucking mess worldwide.

    Proper wealth redistribution is key to a functional society, and France saw its portion of millionaires and billionaires explode in the past 10 years, while every single one of our public services crumbles, and poverty explodes. We have departments without clean drinking water for fucks sake. Capitalism cannot work if everyone wins.

    • ikt@aussie.zoneOP
      29·
      19 days ago

      Apparently you know our politics better than we do

      I spend too much time researching things and France is a uniquely entertaining putain! merci beaucoup! I waste many hours reading about it

      Bayrou is a former prime minister, vastly responsible for the current situation.

      He was only in for like 3 months wasn’t he? Macron’s failed snap election fuck up gave rise to what is uniquely french, 3 incompetent political parties ruining your country all at once! :D I loved it how you couldn’t agree on budget cuts, left and right kept joining up to delete prime ministers, so dumb :D

      I will try to be short but essentially you are not addressing the core issue, I’ve seen other french people doing this same dance, you always seem to avoid the harsh reality that you cannot spend what you don’t have

      Proper wealth redistribution

      You’ve tried it before, remember how well it went?

      “The reform clearly damaged France’s reputation and competitiveness,” said Jorg Stegemann, the head of the executive search firm Kennedy Executive. “It clearly has become harder to attract international senior managers to come to France than it was.”

      Finance ministry studies showed that despite all the publicity, the sums obtained from the supertax were meagre, standing at €260m in 2013 and €160m in 2014, and affecting 1,000 staff in 470 companies. Over the same period, the budget deficit soared to €84.7bn.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/31/france-drops-75percent-supertax

      etcetc

      https://qz.com/279900/a-short-history-of-frances-battles-over-taxing-the-wealthy

      etcetc

      You are but one country that has tried many times to tax the rich to save the country, most of the time the country has to give up and simply reduce spending somehow

      A bit like: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-18/ndis-changes-pass-after-labor-strikes-deal-with-coalition/107051964

      The Coalition voted with Labor in the Senate on Tuesday evening to pass the sweeping changes, which are intended to curb the structural bloat of a scheme that costs more than $50 billion annually.

      The overhaul is expected to save an estimated $37.8 billion over the next four years alone.

      We are also going into debt so we are reducing our outgoings, this is how a normal government functions

      It appears that France has largely covered its eyes for the last 40 years instead

      With proper taxation and redistribution we can largely afford to keep our retirement age at 60. Yes, the system needs to change to make it fair for everyone, and that will include cutting spending for richer retirees. But in no way raising retirement age is an absolute necessity.

      Most pension ages around the world are going up based on the simple economics

      More older people = higher government costs (pensions/healthcare)

      Less young people = lower government income (less workers/less tax)

      Not a complicated scenario but apparently the french are unique and know something we all don’t

      Our spending is high but stable and has been somewhat stable for the past 50 years,

      High and Stable and also unsustainable !