It is so unbelievably ludicrous why these giants feel so compelled to keep gaining as much money as they can when they could already retire several lifetimes’ worth. Greed is truly a mental illness.
I don’t get it. If I somehow ended up with enough money to not have to work the rest of my life I’d buy a decently nice house and and a newer sedan so that it’s reliable, keep working part time in my field because I genuinely love it, spend more time on my hobbies, and do all the traveling I’ve been dreaming of but too broke to do my entire life.
If I had a ludicrous amount of money I’d have a serious thought about how many normal people I could help and how and who I wanted to help. I’d love to set up a scholarship fund for adults going back to school (any school), but I’d also love to help adults in underdeveloped nations starting a business, and I’d love to work with medical charities, and I’d love to help underprivileged children get educated, and there’s so many things I’d love to do to help people’s lives get better.
Scheming on how to steal more money from ordinary people would be the last thing on my list!
But that’s not true; Mark Cuban is legitimately not that bad as far as billionaires go. There are also the owner of Patagonia and some other truly incredible donors. There are people whose lead they could easily follow… and just aren’t…
My creepy uncle wasn’t bad as far as pedophiles go but he still deserved a wood chipper I used to think we could just dismantle money and watch them and let them have the same kinds of nice life everyone gets but they can’t they can’t be people again being that rich breaks something in them
What… kind of… I don’t understand your response. We were talking solely about the wealthy, not pedos, so I don’t know why you suddenly brought up your uncle out of nowhere. Also, do you mean by “dismantle money” the removal of money from society? That’s impossible; it’s a tool to manage greed, which is present in all. The severity of and social impact of it is what turns it into the level of a mental illness.
Well I was using one of those metaphors to say that not bad for a pedophile is still a pedophile also the rich are all pedophiles its impossible to dismantle money why do you think we always had money what are you smoking here you are just stubbornly unimaginative because you’re afraid of needing to care about people or something idk money actually originated as a military logistics technology which means we had militaries so large they could operate a darned mint before it existed learn history before you tell me absolutes of human nature broyoure just jacking yourself off because you know you’re a fucking exploiter and you’re afraid a better world wouldn’t improve your life which is fucking bullshit by the way being on team evil isnt even in your best fucking interest the only reason a better world would go badly for you is if you need to be cleared for it to be born
I’m not going to pretend that I wouldnt do rich guy shit and try to constantly grow my wealth to some degree but at the very least Id make sure my employees fucking adored me and be the absolute gold standard of employers.
That’s what everyone thinks they would do. A statistical analysis of lottery winners says otherwise. Most people when they get money go crazy spending and blow whatever extra money they get, thus needing even more money.
You need to keep in mind that that is not an analysis of a random sampling of the population, that is an analysis of people who are willing to play the lottery in the first place. By definition these are people bad with money and planning.
Exactly, and the billionaires are all people who took some crazy risk and actually won. There were dozens of nascent EV companies when musk invested in tesla, he just got lucky and now he’s a moron with a ketamine addiction and more money than anybody else.
You’re right, greed is a mental illness, and exactly the key mechanism here. It’s the same underlying thing as hoarding, for the like - miserly greedy, especially.
But there’s also this huge complicating factor of the sort of…spot on the spectrum one lands, usually at birth, between no_resources_available and all_resources_available.
Human brains, as they grow into adults, normalize their sort of “home life” circumstances - any understanding of those circumstances - how those compare with broader and broader “others”, AKA how their growing up differs from other folks, and how that came to be?
By dint of biological development, the capacity for those thoughts, leaving aside merely hopeful exposure to them - that ability itself can only develop after the developmental points at which the burgeoning consciousness forms its baseline observations about what the world is. Ya dig?
It’s something a lot worse than just the hoarding flavor fixated on money. It’s mentally unhealable people raising people at such an extreme end of the resources_available spectrum as to make roughly all of them ~equivalently unhealable as a result. Generation after generation, worse and worse, just really baking in that “hole in one’s humanity” unwellness.
Until ta-da! - something snaps, then a lotta things do, then a lotta extra heinous shit happens for a buncha years (by which I mean a lotta people suffer, die, and are forgotten), and eventually a whole lotta the world ends up with pretty different rubble and rules to try to reorganize around. Often some flavor of “second verse, same as the first” but yeah.
So IDK what to call it. We keep doing it, must be pretty cool stuff lol.
For whatever it’s worth, none of this, except the first and last paragraph or so, were truly focused at “you”, or your comment / question.
Hope I didn’t come across as “dunking” or some shit, I have to acknowledge that I often use Lemmy as a place to unpack some thoughts (and see what others think, too) at random moments and in random threads where I find myself with a few brain cells to try to rub together.
I disagree. My personal experience is that the basis for power abuse is rooted early in childhood and having the opportunity merely fleshes out what was already there. There are good leaders as well; it’s just that the bad ones’ drama is more attractive, which snowballs with their charisma.
It’s the opposite, in my opinion. Krafton is the publisher, but right now their name is no longer on the game. So the Developers are self publishing, it looks like. But since Krafton fucked up so royally, the ruling is that if the game sells X amount of copies (I forgot the actual amount) before September, the developers still get the $250m. And Krafton gets no further say in the game and has no further say in the developer team.
Do the parasites get any cut? I don’t want to give them a penny. More important than paying artists I prefer to pirate or not play if the undeserving take a penny
The stipulation is that if enough people buy the game Krafton loses hundreds of millions. We’re talking a range from 145 million $ to 250 million $, provided the game sells between 5 to 12 million units. At 5 million units they will have made roughly 149,950,000 $ — which Krafton immediately loses all of.
This is all readily available information and has been common knowledge in the Subnautica community for months.
It’s like 3$ a copy the publisher is still getting $20+ of revenue per copy. It’s much better pirating it and donating $10 to the devs. Tjat way the publisher gets zero snd the devs get triple.
Exactly that’s why we shouldn’t buy anymore dont let them get close to breaking even and then send more than $3 to the developers and everyone wins. If you buy it at $25 the publisher loses $22 less than if you dont buy it.
Use commas, you can look at the information yourself — all I know is they’re getting fined almost exactly what the game will make between a minimum of 145 million to 250 million.
Edit: the numbers work out to Krafton needing to sell 11.9 million copies in order to break even. The devs are getting paid, and Krafton is getting fucked.
It is haha, was heavily reported when it first was revealed!
It is so unbelievably ludicrous why these giants feel so compelled to keep gaining as much money as they can when they could already retire several lifetimes’ worth. Greed is truly a mental illness.
I don’t get it. If I somehow ended up with enough money to not have to work the rest of my life I’d buy a decently nice house and and a newer sedan so that it’s reliable, keep working part time in my field because I genuinely love it, spend more time on my hobbies, and do all the traveling I’ve been dreaming of but too broke to do my entire life.
If I had a ludicrous amount of money I’d have a serious thought about how many normal people I could help and how and who I wanted to help. I’d love to set up a scholarship fund for adults going back to school (any school), but I’d also love to help adults in underdeveloped nations starting a business, and I’d love to work with medical charities, and I’d love to help underprivileged children get educated, and there’s so many things I’d love to do to help people’s lives get better.
Scheming on how to steal more money from ordinary people would be the last thing on my list!
That’s why you’ll never have those options the only way togrt that much money us to exploit and steal and be a bastard
But that’s not true; Mark Cuban is legitimately not that bad as far as billionaires go. There are also the owner of Patagonia and some other truly incredible donors. There are people whose lead they could easily follow… and just aren’t…
My creepy uncle wasn’t bad as far as pedophiles go but he still deserved a wood chipper I used to think we could just dismantle money and watch them and let them have the same kinds of nice life everyone gets but they can’t they can’t be people again being that rich breaks something in them
What… kind of… I don’t understand your response. We were talking solely about the wealthy, not pedos, so I don’t know why you suddenly brought up your uncle out of nowhere. Also, do you mean by “dismantle money” the removal of money from society? That’s impossible; it’s a tool to manage greed, which is present in all. The severity of and social impact of it is what turns it into the level of a mental illness.
Well I was using one of those metaphors to say that not bad for a pedophile is still a pedophile also the rich are all pedophiles its impossible to dismantle money why do you think we always had money what are you smoking here you are just stubbornly unimaginative because you’re afraid of needing to care about people or something idk money actually originated as a military logistics technology which means we had militaries so large they could operate a darned mint before it existed learn history before you tell me absolutes of human nature broyoure just jacking yourself off because you know you’re a fucking exploiter and you’re afraid a better world wouldn’t improve your life which is fucking bullshit by the way being on team evil isnt even in your best fucking interest the only reason a better world would go badly for you is if you need to be cleared for it to be born
I’m not going to pretend that I wouldnt do rich guy shit and try to constantly grow my wealth to some degree but at the very least Id make sure my employees fucking adored me and be the absolute gold standard of employers.
That’s what everyone thinks they would do. A statistical analysis of lottery winners says otherwise. Most people when they get money go crazy spending and blow whatever extra money they get, thus needing even more money.
You need to keep in mind that that is not an analysis of a random sampling of the population, that is an analysis of people who are willing to play the lottery in the first place. By definition these are people bad with money and planning.
Exactly, and the billionaires are all people who took some crazy risk and actually won. There were dozens of nascent EV companies when musk invested in tesla, he just got lucky and now he’s a moron with a ketamine addiction and more money than anybody else.
The billionaires are all people willing to exploit and steal from others in order to hoard as much as they can. You cannot earn 1 billion dollars.
Luck is a factor, but with daddy’s money the can afford to roll those dice as often as they want until they get “lucky”.
One of those you may be able to do a bit of today https://www.kiva.org/
Too much money and power just corrupts the mind and I truly believe that only very few people can resist.
Is it too much money and power corrupts the mind, or is it a corrupt mind that seeks too much money and power?
You’re right, greed is a mental illness, and exactly the key mechanism here. It’s the same underlying thing as hoarding, for the like - miserly greedy, especially.
But there’s also this huge complicating factor of the sort of…spot on the spectrum one lands, usually at birth, between
no_resources_availableandall_resources_available.Human brains, as they grow into adults, normalize their sort of “home life” circumstances - any understanding of those circumstances - how those compare with broader and broader “others”, AKA how their growing up differs from other folks, and how that came to be?
By dint of biological development, the capacity for those thoughts, leaving aside merely hopeful exposure to them - that ability itself can only develop after the developmental points at which the burgeoning consciousness forms its baseline observations about what the world is. Ya dig?
It’s something a lot worse than just the hoarding flavor fixated on money. It’s mentally unhealable people raising people at such an extreme end of the
resources_availablespectrum as to make roughly all of them ~equivalently unhealable as a result. Generation after generation, worse and worse, just really baking in that “hole in one’s humanity” unwellness.Until ta-da! - something snaps, then a lotta things do, then a lotta extra heinous shit happens for a buncha years (by which I mean a lotta people suffer, die, and are forgotten), and eventually a whole lotta the world ends up with pretty different rubble and rules to try to reorganize around. Often some flavor of “second verse, same as the first” but yeah.
So IDK what to call it. We keep doing it, must be pretty cool stuff lol.
Every social revolution, bloodshed or not, has brought about either short-lived or very long-lived privileges (divorce, more racial equality, etc.).
For whatever it’s worth, none of this, except the first and last paragraph or so, were truly focused at “you”, or your comment / question.
Hope I didn’t come across as “dunking” or some shit, I have to acknowledge that I often use Lemmy as a place to unpack some thoughts (and see what others think, too) at random moments and in random threads where I find myself with a few brain cells to try to rub together.
Great point, we’re certainly due for more of that.
power corrupts
I disagree. My personal experience is that the basis for power abuse is rooted early in childhood and having the opportunity merely fleshes out what was already there. There are good leaders as well; it’s just that the bad ones’ drama is more attractive, which snowballs with their charisma.
So its unethical to spend money on subnautica 2?
It’s the opposite, in my opinion. Krafton is the publisher, but right now their name is no longer on the game. So the Developers are self publishing, it looks like. But since Krafton fucked up so royally, the ruling is that if the game sells X amount of copies (I forgot the actual amount) before September, the developers still get the $250m. And Krafton gets no further say in the game and has no further say in the developer team.
Huh. Maybe. I’m iffy about courts ruling in favor of labor feels lik3 a trap
Do they still get any cut of profits because if so fuck no
No, the devs are getting the payout they deserve.
Do the parasites get any cut? I don’t want to give them a penny. More important than paying artists I prefer to pirate or not play if the undeserving take a penny
The stipulation is that if enough people buy the game Krafton loses hundreds of millions. We’re talking a range from 145 million $ to 250 million $, provided the game sells between 5 to 12 million units. At 5 million units they will have made roughly 149,950,000 $ — which Krafton immediately loses all of.
This is all readily available information and has been common knowledge in the Subnautica community for months.
It’s like 3$ a copy the publisher is still getting $20+ of revenue per copy. It’s much better pirating it and donating $10 to the devs. Tjat way the publisher gets zero snd the devs get triple.
The game will need to sell 11.9 million copies at 29.99 in order for Krafton to break even.
Exactly that’s why we shouldn’t buy anymore dont let them get close to breaking even and then send more than $3 to the developers and everyone wins. If you buy it at $25 the publisher loses $22 less than if you dont buy it.
The game has not sold 5 million copies yet.
‘Loses all of’ so they get zero cut of any of sales after of just that how much are you inferring how much are you citing exact words
Use commas, you can look at the information yourself — all I know is they’re getting fined almost exactly what the game will make between a minimum of 145 million to 250 million.
Edit: the numbers work out to Krafton needing to sell 11.9 million copies in order to break even. The devs are getting paid, and Krafton is getting fucked.
Okay so this sounds like wishful thinking and just blind support of consumerism
Sure it does man