Fairphone and samsung are absolutely not the same kind.
I want to point fairphone is officially distributing /e/OS which is a niche of 2-3 brands. This company that is nowhere in size close to samsung also engages hardcore in device repairability making its phones be a flagship. If anything just let them be successful and tempt others to follow their lead. I would love graphene os to be better supported but just don’t put all the strain on the one doing good. (I type this from my FP6 /e/OS)
@furtiveParalysis@viov Fairphone should start the “fairness” that I can reinstall its OS like of a PC. It does not do that, IT IS CLOSED HARDWARE LIKE A SAMSUNG, so do not buy it!!!
I’m in the embedded market and have kept my first FP3 8 years it was pretty outdated technically but its fairness is intact (in fact it’s still in use).
It is not a FOSS hardware indeed, it isn’t like a samsung either, it is I think the top of the game among existing consumer solutions.
Because i’m not convinced by your argument. You side on the puritain view and I’m pragmatic, therefore we disagree despite being broadly on the same page.
@furtiveParalysis I am pragmatic, I do all the evil for the survival, like I have developed Java on full locked Windows laptops many years long. But I hated them and undermined them where I only could. In the Android world, the tremendous amount of bullshit and lies is far more broad as ever before, including the closed source microsoft-intel world.
To a windows laptop, at least you can install a free system. Generally, there is no way for that on an Android. And it is yet much worse: guys like you, do not even understand that a problem exists. In the old pc/laptop world, the only question was, does it worth; but no one doubt that the option of a linux install exists.
In the world of the phones, you typically do not even understand, what I am talking about. Not much earlier a really stupid asshole did not even to admit that rooting an Android risks bricking it.
Fairphone and samsung are absolutely not the same kind. I want to point fairphone is officially distributing /e/OS which is a niche of 2-3 brands. This company that is nowhere in size close to samsung also engages hardcore in device repairability making its phones be a flagship. If anything just let them be successful and tempt others to follow their lead. I would love graphene os to be better supported but just don’t put all the strain on the one doing good. (I type this from my FP6 /e/OS)
@furtiveParalysis @viov Fairphone should start the “fairness” that I can reinstall its OS like of a PC. It does not do that, IT IS CLOSED HARDWARE LIKE A SAMSUNG, so do not buy it!!!
There there, go buy one when you next need.
(links are in french but you surely haven’t searched at all before spreading hate in capital letters)
to Install e/OS/: https://forum.fairphone.com/t/a-safe-guide-to-install-e-os-on-your-fairphone/128019
to install android: https://support.fairphone.com/hc/en-us/articles/18896094650513-How-to-manually-install-Android-on-your-Fairphone
Unlock the bootloader https://www.fairphone.com/fr/bootloader-unlocking-code-for-fairphone
I’m in the embedded market and have kept my first FP3 8 years it was pretty outdated technically but its fairness is intact (in fact it’s still in use).
It is not a FOSS hardware indeed, it isn’t like a samsung either, it is I think the top of the game among existing consumer solutions.
@furtiveParalysis I summarize your answer: “Yes it is closed hardware, you badass linux guy. Here can you crack it, like of a f…ing samsung: <link>”
You are a badass linux guy mate. Although a bit hater than solution oriented
@furtiveParalysis Why don’t you simply admit, it is not fair at all, it is only a marketing trash? It is the same like a samsung. Or motorola.
Because i’m not convinced by your argument. You side on the puritain view and I’m pragmatic, therefore we disagree despite being broadly on the same page.
@furtiveParalysis I am pragmatic, I do all the evil for the survival, like I have developed Java on full locked Windows laptops many years long. But I hated them and undermined them where I only could. In the Android world, the tremendous amount of bullshit and lies is far more broad as ever before, including the closed source microsoft-intel world.
To a windows laptop, at least you can install a free system. Generally, there is no way for that on an Android. And it is yet much worse: guys like you, do not even understand that a problem exists. In the old pc/laptop world, the only question was, does it worth; but no one doubt that the option of a linux install exists.
In the world of the phones, you typically do not even understand, what I am talking about. Not much earlier a really stupid asshole did not even to admit that rooting an Android risks bricking it.
Instead, you join the chore of the liars.
@furtiveParalysis I have found one. PinePhone (google for it!) tries to boot from its internal sdcard by default.
They have also made a riscv-based tablet, this is how I have found them.