It would seem that your analysis is the correct one.

I did not miss that, no.

You’ve lost me. I’m just trying to understand Robert Kraft’s actual motivations.

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I guess I was wrong.

So… this only makes me more confused, though. He shuts down Macklemore because he doesn’t want Macklemore saying “Free Palestine” in his stadium, and then turns around and supports Palestinian causes?

Christ, I must be missing something here.

I’ll admit I didn’t read the article, lol. But - hang on, if he’s a long-standing financial supporter of the Palestinian people, I’m genuinely confused as to why he’s so upset at Macklemore’s remarks.

Are we sure he isn’t just saying whatever platitudes get him more money and support?

Worth noting that Macklemore knows Kraft won’t match it. Makes it even more of a boss move.

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He very much isn’t. He’s extremely well-known as the other half of (his sister) Billie Eilish’s recordings and plays with her live. He also has a pretty successful band in his own right. That’d be why he was selected for the Apple TV thing to begin with.

I mean, I guess if you’d never heard of Billie Eilish or heard her music before, I could see your first exposure to him being the Apple TV intro music.

Ohhh, right. Man, I’m a terrible Millennial.

Bacon will forever remain epic, even if it is slowly killing me.

I’m so tired of this thing that I’m gonna talk about it more.

Minimum wage here in Alberta, Canada remains $15/hr. CAD and hasn’t changed since 2018. That’s eight years. Absolutely insane now that I’ve looked it up, fuck me. And of course the UCP will never do anything that might help a struggling person.

This might be the dumbest meme I’ve ever seen. I like it.

What the fuck are you talking about? Genuinely. And which nation do you assume I represent, exactly?

I really can’t take anybody who says “lib” unironically seriously.

I like you, as it turns out. You’re espousing much of how I feel in a more coherent manner than I can muster. I appreciate the optimism too. I will say I’m closer to a pessimist but I recognize in no uncertain terms that socialism is how we can fix this. I sure hope we can someday.

Thanks for chatting.

Ending capitalism would be lovely. But let me know how we’re supposed to achieve that in the context of US imperialism, tech companies and billionaires hoarding wealth, and the average person gradually losing their voices.

It seems to me that nearly every system in place is there specifically to perpetuate capitalism.

Trump viscerally hates the average American so it seems very clear this movement can’t and won’t begin in the US. He doesn’t want his voters to prosper. And, further to that, Trump has an army of sycophants foaming at the mouth to take over if he dies or god-willing just goes away.

We’re clearly on the same side here in most respects.

Pump the brakes. I’m not revising American history as you seem to suggest with “pinning everything on Trump.” Good lord, obviously previous US presidents are to blame for their various actions in many different countries.

We’re gonna have to try and find a happy medium here. Because we can’t simply say “all presidents have done this and it’s as simple as America having an imperialist attitude” because we need to hold every single one of these people accountable.

I’m a non-American observer. You’ll notice that Obama’s reputation is intact globally and most consider him to be an excellent president in hindsight despite many transgressions like his popularization of drone strikes.

Bush should be held accountable. Obama should be held accountable. Trump should be held accountable.

I think we’re arguing two sides of the same coin here. I agree we can’t ignore the past but we also can’t ignore the present. And Trump has taken his predecessors’ ideas of imperialism to a whole new level - no denying that.

I’m a Canadian. Threatening to annex Canada? You better believe our attitudes here are going to be far more hostile to Trump than they ever were towards Obama. That’s just the way it is.

We’re in agreement - the United States of America (irrespective of who heads the executive branch) is at odds with most of the world. You guys are stuck in a centuries-old attitude of conquest and I can only hope for the world’s sake that you can eventually break free of this perspective.

That’s whataboutism. Right now, the focus is on Trump.

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