The title implies its been creeping into the modern Ukrainian army, which only existed for 33-something years. The “80 years” part may only be applicable to the outside world. It’s mixed up a bit here.

Ukrainian fascism was created outside Ukraine

Fascism by its very nature is always an Astroturfed movement. And given the fact that we’re talking about a former Soviet republic - it had to be forcefully pushed into the country, with billions of dollars pouring from the Empire’s coffers.

Fascism was created in the Western Europe

I wouldn’t quite put it like that - reactionary movements existed prior to Mussolini and Hitler - the particular form that was eventually coined as “fascism” was, though. UNR, I would say, were also reactionaries, so were the Whites etc. The point stands -Banderism is undoubtedly a vile child of the West.

This comment is spot on, though. Couldn’t agree more.

I mean… If anyone still has any doubts about what the US turned post-2014 Ukraine into - just have a look at their military intelligence logo

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https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Socialist_Workers_Party_(United_States)

There are several links and references

“transracial”

“woke-free”

Honestly, what does it say about a person who adds that to their account description? That’s too much even for ironic language

You know what the funniest part is?

That’s the smallest size :D (I’m kidding, but hey - to each according to their need)

Very good post. I saved this for later, when I write my own works on the issue - it’ll come in handy. Thank you

Me and my friend I am slowly getting radicalized

I think what they meant was “the working class has no nationality”

Or maybe their capitalist hegemony is in some deep shit and the only way the empire can hold out trying to uphold it is playing with fire. Simply said - desperation.

I expected the US to have kept their Nazi dogs on a leash this time around. That way, they could have painted a rosy picture to their domestic libs - “oh, look, how progressive they are over there! They have pride parades and Starbucks”

It seems like the Nazis just don’t give a fuck sometimes.

Now we’ll have to pin this failure on someone

The horrifying part is that they are already doing that. They didn’t just adopt their draconian mobilization law for no reason.

Sad Tucker Carlson face

I wish ye all black and tans a very merry fight me like a man

The majority of Republikans are liberals too. In the classical sense of the word. Calling chuds “liberals” melts that place of theirs where the brain is usually supposed to be.

I would like to expand upon this point and say that “a soldier with the wrong kind of political or ideological education is most probably a criminal”. Conscription or not. Just take a look at the Ukrainian army - it isn’t hard to find people with swastikas on their uniform. And, they are definitely not unhappy about being criminals. Just like the original Nazis they glorify.

Furthermore, professional armies are much more reactionary/apolitical in nature.

Active duty force - yes, there’s a clear reason for that - material interests (paycheck). Disenchanted and disenfranchised veterans - not as much, perhaps.

There’s another thing worth mentioning - the dichotomy of “professional” vs “conscription” is not as either/or as one may suggest, rather it’s become and/both, dialectics-style. Take Russia, for example: before Wagner was incorporated into the AF, they had all three - conscripts, professional/voluntary and mercs. The US is to be noted too - the Blackwater PMC has at least 110,000 soldiers, perhaps more.

I now tend toward the opposite view that if war is to be waged then it must involve the entire population of a country and happen only with their consent and participation.

This is not going to happen in capitalism, though. The ruling class needs war, they are going to force their will on the population. We need socialism for this.