A better one would be “there’s no proof of that, they weren’t, but don’t try and derail the conversation, stay on topic.”
Their most probable answer would be “ooooh, are you trying to deny it?”
In this case, pretend to be a noob with your views akin to theirs. Say something like “fuck no, but I need some proof to smear at my redfash friend/coworker/whatever’s face!”
And watch them try to produce it.
(Edit: Typo)
Short answer: entire year unemployed, then working in healthcare delivering things to folks that had even less than I have.
Skyrim? Morrowind? Bioshock? Fallout 3?
Sometimes, I think conservatives don’t even know what they themselves stand for.
It’s about the same in Brazil
A mix of unemployment through an entire year (2013), already having similar personal standards, and my aunt marrying a Russian (ironically, he’s now far-right) who said he missed the USSR and how life was there. Also, one of my former bosses gave me a copy of The Communist Manifesto and I liked it. Then I read the first The Capital volume. I suppose it was a gradual proccess and somewhat instinctive in my case - I basically figured out Communism is, logically, the best possible system for people like me.
Curiously, when the times change (say, homophobia stops being widely accepted), Matt and Trey act like no, they never made fun of, bullied or outright opposed struggles by any of these groups. Compare their treatment of homosexual characters and LGBT+ themes in the earlier seasons with more modern ones. While the modern ones still are pretty reactionary, they toned down their vitriol against other more ‘accepted’ groups.
Basically, they probably would try to pass it off with arguments that would amount as ‘huh? we? oh, no, we never said that,’ or ‘just a prank, bro,’ or ‘uh, it was a different time then.’
They could not be more mainstream.
I prefer to call “tired of this fucking shit” Left.
Edit: Chen Weihua is a great example. XD
Ever heard of Lepin?
Probably can run a country just as well as his namesake.
It’s why, before the world Left got defanged, Communists just used to help those people answer the ages-old question: “Is there a god?” - if you know what I mean.
Now a lot of people who call themselves communists or socialists want to do things ‘right’, even if it means being nothing more than doomed moral victors and this allowed the rise of these people.
It is useful to pretend to be one of them - or at least an “initiate” in their ways.
If they shun you, then they risk looking like they’ll be driving people “to the enemy.” If they try to explain, they’ll sooner or later admit to being bullshitting.