• Carrolade@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/466594-jill-stein-i-am-not-a-russian-spy/

    Meeting with Putin was not a particularly good look, when Russia is one of the largest hydrocarbon producers on the planet and has significant interests in thawing Arctic seaways.

    Where Hilary meeting with Putin made a little more sense, as she was the country’s Secretary of State at the time, and talking with rival leaders is very much her job.

    More recent stuff is largely about Russian propaganda supporting her, likely just to help Trump though, due to his more authoritarian-friendly positions.

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      What is your point about hydrocarbons?

      You say Russia produces hydrocarbons, the United States is the worlds largest producer of hydrocarbons lol

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      All this suggests is that the Russians tried to divert left leaning voters away from Clinton by boosting Stein’s candidacy.

      There is zero evidence there that Stein was contacted by Russia or even aware of the way in which her campaign was being hijacked.

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          Dude, I’m voting for Jill Stein. And so are many of my friends. You should probably just accept it and let it go. If your candidate is strong enough, then you shouldn’t worry about who we vote for. :)

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            You asked for evidence that Jill Stein is affiliated with the Russians. I provided some. Interesting how you now feel a need to pivot to me, personally.

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              All this suggests is that the Russians tried to divert left leaning voters away from Clinton by boosting Stein’s candidacy. There is zero evidence there that Stein was contacted by Russia or even aware of the way in which her campaign was being hijacked.

              You did not present evidence of that. If she was paid for by Russia, you don’t think that would be front page news? Come on, now…

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                Stein traveled to Russia in 2015 and attended a dinner hosted by RT, a Russian television network, and was photographed at the same table as Russian President Vladimir Putin.

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                  OH MY GOD!! She actually was photographed at the same table. OMG! Wow! You know she was running before al the russian nonsense, right?

                  She also talked about it: A campaign spokesperson told Newsweek that Stein “attended at her own expense to spread a message of peace and diplomacy” and gave a speech in Moscow “in which she criticized the excessive militarism of both Vladimir Putin and U.S. leaders.” https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-ties-vladimir-putin-explained-1842620

                  The Russians tried to divert left leaning voters away from Clinton by boosting Stein’s candidacy. There is zero evidence there that Stein was contacted by Russia or even aware of the way in which her campaign was being hijacked.

                  IF there were concrete evidence that she was on the Russian payroll, then every news org in the nation would have it be front page news. And it’d be the end of her career. And lots of people would like to see her go away.

                  So if you have hard evidence, you should send that to the major news orgs. That’d be major news.

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                She had dinner with Putin in Russia. He is a Russian. I am not sure how you could read that article and somehow skip that part.

                Note, I am speaking merely of affiliation. Alliance, if you will. Though there could be some dark money flowing towards her campaign as some sort of compensation, money can flow into a super PAC without being disclosed ever since Citizen’s United. We usually don’t know who pays for super PACs, basically. Since this remains unknown, it would not be safe to assume it either is or is not happening.

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                  A campaign spokesperson told Newsweek that Stein “attended at her own expense to spread a message of peace and diplomacy” and gave a speech in Moscow “in which she criticized the excessive militarism of both Vladimir Putin and U.S. leaders.” https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-ties-vladimir-putin-explained-1842620

                  The Russians tried to divert left leaning voters away from Clinton by boosting Stein’s candidacy. There is zero evidence there that Stein was contacted by Russia or even aware of the way in which her campaign was being hijacked.

                  IF there were concrete evidence that she was on the Russian payroll, then every news org in the nation would have it be front page news. And it’d be the end of her career. And lots of people would like to see her go away.

                  So if you have hard evidence, you should send that to the major news orgs. That’d be major news.

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                    I am not talking about any speeches she made. I am talking about a dinner and conversation with Vladimir Putin. Giving a speech while she is there does not surprise me.

                    Note, she does not have to be on anyone’s “payroll”, this is childish. Trump is not on Putin’s payroll, he simply likes dictators and so he helps them.

                    Also, I highly doubt it would be major news. Relatively few people really care about Jill Stein in the mainstream.