cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5309499

After Biden’s meltdown, the Democrats are hoping to reenergize people with a supposedly “progressive” pick for Kamala Harris’ running mate.

  • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    “Progressive” gives an implication that they’d have strong (or at least the appearance of strong) but still liberal belief in at least superficial non-hitlerite ideas, and violently suppressing protestors during the George Floyd protests is a pretty obvious hitlerite move. Most liberals and “progressives” believe they were “tOo vIoLent” though and those actions got forgotten anyways, so that checks out with liberalism/progressivism.

    But he can’t even pretend to be a non-hitlerite, he could be a “real” (as in successfully giving the appearance of being a human being) progressive but having an outright pro-Israel stance makes that impossible. He’s faking being a faker

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      3 months ago

      American progressives have always been imperialist. Historically they supported eugenics. He’s not mislabeled at all, in fact today’s progressives are much less rabid than the ones from the Teddy Roosevelt era

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      I disagree that “progressives” cant be pro-Israel because social democrats in imperial core nations will always support imperialism. There were two people in all of congress who were consistent on Israel and one of them just got primaried. And I’m pretty sure they still stumbled on other questions related to imperialism. Like I said, progressivism isnt actually good, and the main way its not good is that “progressives” will support imperialism while supporting progressive policies domestically. For me, he fits the bill of what I expect of an American “progressive”, its just that progressivism isnt actually good lol. Almost all of us here are former progressive socdems so I think some of us still have an interest in keeping the label “pure” but we dont actually have to do that really. We’re communists, we left that behind. Social imperialists can have the label lol.