Please stop reporting all OF models as spam. If a post is off-topic, report is as off-topic. If community rules forbid OF models from posting, report that. If a user is flooding a sub with multiple posts a day in a row, that’s a legit report as well.

Otherwise a post by an OF model is not in and of itself spam, even if it is made by a <ferengi>female</ferengi> with the temerity to control her own sexuality.

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    I have no issue with OF, but i don’t want to be overtly advertised to.

    If i find myself in a /c where OF spam is out of control and the mods don’t wish to do anything about it then I’ll just move on.

    Many NSFW Reddit subs turned to rubbish when OF users spammed the hell out of hundreds of subs, when where there content was not a match for the sub. If this happens here then it will suck as well.

    I’m happy for OF users to post content appropriate to the /c they post in and include a link to their OF in the body or in a following message. But having a pair of tits posted in an anal /c along with 50 other /c’s with “My only fans 50% off right now” as the title… thats spam, clear as day, and it has no place.

    And for those saying its content, there is no need to grow for the sake of growth, let’s rather grow naturally and at a steady pace and maintain some quality.

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    This is the correct take. Is it any surprise that OF models generate a lot of nsfw content? Unless the users posting is too frequent, it’s not spam. If a painter links to their webpage on a post where they share their art do we cry spam? Treating their content like spam entirely on the grounds of them being OF models is honestly pretty sex negative. Y’all should support the idea of sex workers having control of their own content.

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      Speaking from previous experience on Reddit, the OF models are the posters most likely to start spam posting.

      That shouldn’t mean we auto report them here, but it’s behavior to be wary of and worth checking an OF account to make sure they aren’t.

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    Definitely. I think everyone is just trigger happy from the cesspool that so many NSFW subs on reddit became. To me there were two problems.

    The first one was just actual spam. Same pictures posted to every sub possible, multiple times a day, all with generic bullshit titles and the same type of “engagement”. That doesn’t seem to be a problem yet, and is a simple one to solve.

    The second, more subjective one is that OF content is just…bad. The same type of pictures, the same videos, all just not appealing. What happened to camgirls? What happened the actual realism of amateur content? That is subjective though, I don’t think you can moderate quality besides upvoting/downvoting.

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    If OF takes a hold of Lemmy like it did Reddit I’ll just defederate from Lemmy all together. Nobody has time for 50 identical posts from the same user only to finish with that user’s posts just in time to pick up another OF user’s 50 identical posts. OF and their repost bot Army ruined entire communities on reddit and they for sure will do the same here if allowed.

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      “Do older guys even like 18yo girls? Teeheehee”

      “My boyfriend made fun of my boobs and says I need implants! Teeheehee”

      “Be honest. Would you smash an 18yo virgin??”

      Lifts top does a small wiggle “see more on my OF” *posts to 30 other communities"

      I’m not mad about it. Y’all should make money on it if you can, but most of this shit is the same and ruined porn on Reddit. I’m sure there’s some that are really into the exhibition of it, and that rocks, but It’ll ruin porn here too.

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    Final comment about this because I wanna get off this topic as I’m getting triggered. I’m an exhibitionist AND I need to pay my bills. Idk why I wouldn’t combine those 2 things? I love what I do. I love posting nudes! I love talking to people online. Why wouldnt I try to do that as my job if I love it? The only people that will be seeing my link are the people that click on my profile and find it for themselves. Have a good day everyone 😂😛

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      Yeah THIS! You put time and effort in it. That makes it a goddamn job in my eyes

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        Putting in effort does not entitle you to getting paid for something that exists for free somewhere else, or to being allowed to advertise anywhere you want.

        Pretty sure no one has denied that it’s a real job or business. The critics just don’t want to do business with you.

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          Definitely not feeling entitled to get paid, since people can ask for commissions themselves or give tips themselves. If I post a very nice picture or video on here, then it is for free right? I am not asking anything for that.

          It bothers me that people want to get it for free, but once they get it for free it’s not okay since it’s ‘advertisment’, because the model might earn a bit of money on another website with it.

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    I have a simple solution to this: If you are the moderator of your community, just put a rule in the sidebar disallowing OF links and references. Handle it on a per-community level.

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      I just wish c/gonewild would hold true to what made r/gonewild special. Allowing people who monitize to post there just turns it into a generic porn subscription.

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    …you guys know we need more porn on here, right? The low quantity is likely hurting our retention a little bit. Can’t they just get a sub or something? It’s content, guys. We need content. Just give them a space.

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    Also…even if these are regular women who have 9 to 5’s that’s even a more reason to tip them! Gosh…be gentlemen!! Why are people here so selfish!!?? (Not OP…the others 🫠🫠🫠). As a pro, I feel like I want to support amateur women and make sure they are being treated well.

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      My two cents, im not an OF model. Been posting nudes for a longtime though. I make my content cause i enjoy messing with my camera and want to express my sexuality. I was there for the rock and roll vibes of early days gonewild and it was freaking awesome. My pictures were spread all over the internet. Its insane what kind of proposals ive gotten over the years and the adventures i went on. Im not into it for the money, im into it for the experiences and honest connections with likeminded people. That being said, i know alot of girls who made the jump from amateur to pro. And why the fuck wouldnt they, im in support of OF models showing their pictures and advertising on their profile, this community needs content. Well it needs to be the place where the parties at. No reason they cant be part of the party.

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    I’m gonna be really blunt here, idk how it’ll be received, but: without women who are paid to be naked, there will be very, very little content in OC porn communities.

    I just see so many people on Reddit claim to only love “true amateur” content, but that content almost always gets hugely downvoted or goes unnoticed on the big subreddits. I think it’s because people who don’t profit from their stuff aren’t always trying to make content with the widest appeal possible. They don’t tend to care as much about being perfectly lit up so every nipple detail is visble. Or about getting the pose just right. Many won’t want to show their face. You’d think the clearly true amateur stuff would be more celebrated, but it seems people want to see women make huge amounts of pro-level content just for funsies. That’s not really realistic.

    Edit: r/bigonewild banned OF posters and it turned into such a sausagefest that they changed their description to make it into a stated bi male centric community.

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      Why do you assume all this shit is worth getting some cringy amateur content? I don’t even like amateur content when it’s interactive. Those thots can go make videos and sell them on their whatever site, but they shouldn’t talk to me like I’m stupid and thirsty, and they should stay the fuck out of my communities!

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        Re-read the original comment. Everyone on this thread is talking about OC (aka interactive amateur) communities. If you don’t like that, don’t go to OC communities. Also, you seem kinda unpleasant in general

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      The people who like popular porn don’t really go around announcing that they love professional-grade porn. They only do so when talking about the ethical consumption of porn, and their focus is on supporting people for their work, not the appreciation for the high quality or enjoying the financial transaction.

      Announcing you like amateur porn is a statement about the flavor of porn you like, and it’s pretty clearly a minority opinion, given what we see reach the tops of the porn forums.

      I pretty much only like amateur porn. But you know what? I’m not going to stop anyone else from enjoying the kind of porn they like. Why should I? If you like professional porn, great! If you don’t, that’s okay too. Neither side should judge the other so long as they’re not promoting harmful behavior of one type or another. There’s nothing wrong with making a living by getting naked, there’s nothing wrong with doing it for fun!

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        I dunno. Maybe I’m just being the salty OF girl, but it doesn’t seem like anyone at all (on Reddit, not here) is willing to do anything besides grumble about advertisement when the subject comes up. I see mods of nsfw subreddits get downvoted to hell when they say they won’t be banning Onlyfans users from posting, followed by tons of upvoted “where are the reeeeal women?” comments. The complaint comments get upvoted more than actual, perfectly good content posted by regular women. I just wish they’d be a little more supportive when those women do post, I suppose.

        That being said, I totally agree that people should watch and make porn for whatever reason they please!!

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          The thing is, my ad block works on stated ads, but it doesn’t work on the subliminal ones such as OF.

          All the power in the world to you for doing what you do. I have nothing against it. (I mean, I’m against capitalism in general, but you clearly own the capital in this situation). There should be places where OF women/men can post their profiles so people can find them, the problem is the fact that it’s everywhere that used to be more community and amateur based.

          I think it’s fair to say that the gonewild subs/communities have been taken over by folks who are always wild, as it’s their profession. You wouldn’t see pornstars posting on gonewild, because they aren’t “going wild” in the sense of the basis of the subs, the old series Girls Gone Wild. The whole point was that it’s regular people (“hot” or otherwise) posting something risque to step out of their shell. That’s why you’d see a lot of cropped faces and such.

          What happened is a few people like the one asian woman who’s name I just can’t remember, who were more attractive than most other posters, started doing it a bit more than just as a dirty little secret. It became the main part of their life. It became a job. Then due to her and others like her, people started getting the idea of OF, where anyone can skip the first part and just start selling sex pics/vids.

          I’m not blaming her specifically, especially since I don’t remember her name, but there was a definite change in the atmosphere of the gonewilds and by the end of the recent reddit fallout, most of those subs were 98% OF posts. You could click a username and see the same pic, with what had to be auto-generated titles, to as many possible NSFW subreddits they could find.

          A big thing now as well is that the non OF posters are more self conscious in general, and might only be trying to post a few selfies a month. When they see what they competition is like (OF posts), they get discouraged. How is anyone supposed to be into them when all they see are these megahotties and yunghungguns all over the place. amateurs don’t have the lighting and cameras to even compete with the lowliest OF posters. You can act like you support the amateurs as a creator yourself, but then you post next to them and try and act surprised? It’s just a basic difference between amateur and professional (even if it’s not corporate) content.

          Honestly I think the biggest issue is that OF is a subscription model which forces workers like you into the shitty situation of having to continually make new content and finding new subs. Imho this ends up making the content very quantity over quality, and forces you all into having to advertise aggressively while being unable or unwilling to pursue normal advertising routes.

          Just looking at the top cummunities (lmao) here, most are part of the gonewild trope and they’re all filled to the brim with OF posts. again, you can’t go wild if being wild is your job. You’re just wild.

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            The German gonewild community banned all commercial posters. Even an onlyfans link in their bio will get you banned. I think the community is still thriving.

            My wild guess on this is, that you can go wild in Germany and still have time to do your daily job. And because the german society is not so focused on money in terms of: if you do not have it you cannot get basic necessities like medical interventions or learn a job.

            US content creators have a big incentive to monetize everything to the maximum possible.

            Edit: germansgonewild has a maximum of two posts in 24 h and a profile wide ban of paid content. No links, no comments etc.

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          I agree. Whether someone is “pro” or doing it because, the attitude should be supportive. Otherwise, the content will be shitty. It will only be dudes reposting weird as stock photos or stolen non consensual content.

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            It will only be dudes reposting weird as stock photos or stolen non consensual content.

            Except for years that wasn’t the case on any of the gonewilds on reddit. You act like without OF people won’t have any access to porn. As if pornhub doesn’t exist, or the million other sites. Cam girls exist too. You clearly miss the reason for the gonewild communities and only see it as a place to act like you’re just some regular girl who’s being dirty. But you’re not, you’re a professional sex worker. There should be a space for OF workers to post their stuff, but it shouldn’t be every single space on this or similar websites.

            You’re discriminating against the people who just want to share because it makes them and others feel good. You just want money. You can start as an amateur, but once it’s your job, you aren’t an amateur anymore and don’t get to act like you are, or participate in a community designed for amateurs.

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      Edit: r/bigonewild banned OF posters and it turned into such a sausagefest that they changed their description to make it into a stated bi male centric community.

      do you think that could be because the women were just lying about being bi so they had more opportunities to advertise their OF? I think that’s kind of a huge point in support of banning OF ads

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        sorry for the late reply. I understand your point, but it still illustrates how little contribution an OC community will see from true amateur women with rules like that in place. communities will simply need to decide between allowing men and still having a relatively healthy amount of posts (but they will be mostly of penises), or disallowing men and just not having a lot of content. the choice was easy for r/bigonewild because it was already a space for people who like men. I’d say r/gonewild is a notable exception, but it’s also got a massive viewership that many people will leverage to build an audience before posting their paid links on profile and then receiving a ban. not that there are no unpaid women on that subreddit, there are, but that’s a factor.