• HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Thank you! All this “anti-fascist coalition” talk is ridiculous because Biden is also a fascist. He is funding a state that bombs its own residents.

    Both presidential candidates are fascists.

    You’re tolerating a bad thing in service of preventing a terrible thing

    I actually think Biden is worse than Trump.

    Trump tried to stage a coup against the US government, but Biden is funding a genocide, and that is worse.

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      Biden is a neo-liberal and a zionist. Biden is complicit in Israel’s genocide.

      He is funding a state that bombs its own residents.

      He’s following 70 years of US foreign policy to support Israel. The fact he hasn’t abandoned Israel in response to Israel’s genocide doesn’t make him a fascist.

      Trump tried to stage a coup against the US government, but Biden is funding a genocide, and that is worse.

      Biden doesn’t want the eradication of the Palestinian people and is pushing for a ceasefire. Trump will give Israel free reign to completely eradicate the Palestinian people. What Trump wants to do is worse.

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        Biden […] is pushing for a ceasefire.

        That’s just theatre. Biden says he’s pushing for a ceasefire, but his actions (like giving $17 billion to Israel) say otherwise.

        And he’s blaming Hamas for not accepting the ceasefire, even though reports in mainstream newspapers are reporting that the true obstacle is that Israel has no interest in it. It’s as if Biden “proposed” this ceasefire to try to make Hamas look evil for “rejecting” it.

        You can’t judge politicians by what they say. Only by what they do. And what he’s doing is funding Israel’s slaughter of men women and children in Gaza, and vetoing any intervention by the United Nations.

        Biden says nice things but does terrible things. It’s the typical Democrat playbook.

        I don’t see how Trump could be any worse for the Gazans. Maybe he’ll even be better. Maybe he’ll be too cheap to give $17 billion to Israel, and tell them to fund it themselves. After all, Trump didn’t start any new wars when he was in office (unlike every other recent president).

        I don’t know what Trump will do. But I know the genocide will continue under Biden, so yes, maybe I’m willing to see if it’s better under the other guy. (I mean, I’m not voting for Trump. But I don’t feel I need to vote for Biden either.)

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          Pushing for a ceasefire is one of the things Biden can do. The goal is to pressure Israel as much as Hamas, not just make Hamas look bad. Biden should push Israel harder, and stop sending offensive weapons to Israel, but he doesn’t have direct control over Israel.

          This is in contrast to Trump, who stated what he intends to do. Trump is a fascist and he is going to allow Israel’s government to continue their genocide completely unobstructed. There is no reason to doubt that. Millions of dead Palestinians is worse for the Palestinians.

          Biden says nice things but does terrible things. It’s the typical Democrat playbook.

          This describes the Republican Party.

          After all, Trump didn’t start any new wars when he was in office (unlike every other recent president).

          He emboldened dictators around the world to start or advance their own wars.

          I mean, I’m not voting for Trump. But I don’t feel I need to vote for Biden either.

          The US first-past-the-post voting system is a zero-sum game and Republicans win with low voter turn out. Every vote Democrats don’t get is a vote the Republicans do not need to get. US democracy is flawed in that it inherently favors minority rule and is inundated with corporate lobbyists. So, we need record voter turn out if we want to keep our democracy in 2024. edit: capitalization

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            Biden should push Israel harder, and stop sending offensive weapons to Israel, but he doesn’t have direct control over Israel.

            Biden could stop this with a phone call.

            The only way Netanyahu is able to do this is because he knows he has Biden’s support. Netanyahu relies on Biden to veto any action by the United Nations.

            All this stuff we hear in the media about how Biden is frustrated with Netanyahu is just theatre. Don’t fall for it.

            This describes the Republican Party.

            No, the Republican Party says terrible things and does terrible things. The Democrats say nice things and do terrible things.

            Of course, in the end, there’s no difference.

            Every vote Democrats don’t get is a vote the Republicans do not need to get.

            Well, if Joe Biden doesn’t like that, then maybe he should stop killing brown children.

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              Biden could stop this with a phone call.

              The only way Netanyahu is able to do this is because he knows he has Biden’s support. Netanyahu relies on Biden to veto any action by the United Nations.

              All this stuff we hear in the media about how Biden is frustrated with Netanyahu is just theatre. Don’t fall for it.

              Biden has tremendous leverage to push Israel to a ceasefire that he is not using, but needs to use. That includes adopting a UN resolution that condemns Israel’s actions. Netanyahu is a fascist who is desperate to prolong or expand the war to stay out of prison. Netanyahu and the other fascists in his war cabinet are not arguing in good faith or under Biden’s direct control. The current government in Israel needs to collapse so a new coalition can take power and pull the IDF out of Gaza. The IDF leadership seems to be populated with ideologues and have no interested in eliminating any terrorist groups. The IDF and the current war cabinet want to punish Palestinians and have a bogyman. Netanyahu wants to prevent Palestinian statehood.

              No, the Republican Party says terrible things and does terrible things. The Democrats say nice things and do terrible things.

              The Republicans consistently say they are the party of small government and freedoms and then consistently work tirelessly to take those freedoms away. Democrats push out incremental progress which is good, but too slow if we are going to advert a climate disaster or prevent a christo-fascist dictatorship with an oligarchy of billionaires.

              Well, if Joe Biden doesn’t like that, then maybe he should stop killing brown children.

              Biden is not directly killing anyone, although Biden is complicit in the deaths of Palestinian children. The fascists will kill millions of people at home and around the world.

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      I think trying to rank which one is worse distracts from the substance of the issue, which is that the electoral system doesn’t provide an option that doesn’t involve genocide.

      They shouldn’t be comfortable with sitting on their ass and casting their vote 5 months out, if they felt as bad as they claim they should be protesting their government that refuses to stop running cover for a genocidal religious ethno-state.