• splonglo@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Absolutely. The right say they’re pro-freedom but they’ll strip you of the right to vote if you smoke weed.

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      Coincidentally one of the reasons that led to the prohibition of cannabis.

      Who smoked weed? Black people, brown people, and when the war on drugs really ramped up…hippies.

      Nowadays most rational people realized the war on drugs was bunk and people of all walks and colors smoke weed.

      I doubt it’s a coincidence that the states that haven’t decriminalized yet are the ones that still love to hassle PoCs and hippies the most.

      • CashewNut 🏴󠁢󠁥󠁧󠁿@lemmy.world
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        It was Mexicans too. It’s where the “lazy Mexican sleeping in the shade” comes from.

        If you’re willing to question cannabis legality maybe look at other drugs too. Coca leaves were chewed by native tribes millennia ago to help with long journeys. Kratom was used in Asia to help with long harvest days. Celts were eating shrooms millennia ago.

        Humanity has a LONG history of drug use with nothing off-limits and there was no societal collapse from it. It’s the past century puritan ideals that are a serious aberration.

        Did you know it’s statistically more dangerous to go horse riding than take Molly? The toilets in the UK Parliament were tested for cocaine and all tested positive. No drug should be illegal.

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  • _number8_@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    the right wing ethos that boils my blood the quickest is when people drool out shit like ‘play stupid games win stupid prizes’ under a story about some guy getting brutally beaten by police for being at a protest or stealing a dvd

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          Yeah, of course the video doesn’t show any of the events leading up to the arrest, so we can only speculate what really happened.

          Yes it doesn’t look like fun and I’m all for giving someone the benefit of the doubt, but the guy also looks and acts like he might be on drugs, and he’s out in public not wearing a shirt, which already shows at least a tendency towards blatant disregard for the rules, but either way, we should be careful to jump any conclusions when seeing something like that, because there’s definitely a big part of the story that’s missing here.

          But the good news is, it looks like he survived, so I’m sure he’ll get to have his day in court to prove his innocence, and I sure hope that he won’t be punished excessively or unjustly.

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            I’m all for giving someone the benefit of the doubt

            Well that’s a good first step

            but the guy also looks and acts like he might be on drugs, and he’s out in public not wearing a shirt

            As yes, those two infamous crimes of “possibly being on drugs” and “no shirt, no presumption of innocence”

            Come on man. Be better.

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              If you automatically side with the supposed victim despite the clear lack of any information about prior events leading to this scene, I might as well accuse you of “uniform and badge, no presumption of innocence”. It’s just as biased and therefore bigoted as the opposite stance.

              That’s why we have the courts, though. The cops will have to prove that they had a legitimate reason to make an arrest or the judge will just let the guy go. Happens often enough, believe it or not.

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                Arrest, yes. I’m less on board with the violence. I’m all about a proportionate response.

                And that’s in general terms. There’s a reason people think all cops are bastards and it’s not because they dislike the colour blue.

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                  Again, without being able to see what happened before the video started, it’s hard to judge whether this was a proportionate response or not.

                  If your default assumption is ACAB and they’re just doing this to hurt him because they can, then you’re just as biased as you’re accusing me of being. And I’m not saying the cops are by always innocent by default, but I’ve also seen enough people like this guy act like major dickheads before claiming to be a victim of police brutality.

                  But once again, if he did nothing wrong, I hope he goes free. And with a nice check to boot, if they did use excessive force. But that’s up to the judge to decide, not me.

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                  Ok but resisting arrest IS a crime. If you haven’t done anything wrong, just let them arrest you, they can’t keep you locked up without charging you with something.

                  Every single case of someone being convicted only for resisting arrest is a case where it would have been better for them to comply since the cops clearly either didn’t find anything else or couldn’t make any of the other charges stick.

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        Yes, but not only that. His murder is emblematic of a general culture of taking away the rights of people who do not fall in line with the regime.

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    A right to remain silent. A right to a competent attorney regardless of ability to pay. A right to due process. A right to a timely trial by a jury of peers. A right to healthy food, shelter, healthcare, and other accommodations while incarcerated. I’m probably missing a few.