I knew two that have their own pages, and know one mentioned in a Wikipedia page but doesn’t actually have his own dedicated page.
I knew:
Lee Vincent, my best friend’s dad when I was a kid.
And
Josh Phillips, another childhood friend, who, later on after we both moved away, murdered an eight year old girl and hid the body under his bed for several days. His mom found the body when it started to smell.
Currently:
My wife is a second cousin of the lead guitarist for a major international rock/metal band I guarantee you’ve heard of. We’ve hung out with him a few times. Really nice guy. I’m not putting the name because some of y’all creepy and might be able to identify us based on info in this post.
(Edited to remove potentially identifying familial relation)
Link works for me. I think the parens in the link target are borking it for some people.
As for what it’s like…. It’s weird. I knew him when we were both like 10 or so. My mom and his mom were pretty good friends, so I’d go over to his house any time they wanted to hang out.
He was a normal kid. He liked Nintendo and was trying to learn to play guitar.
His dad though… his dad was a raving psychopath. He used to beat the shit out of both him and his mom. I damn near caught a beating from him once until mom declared that if he was there, we wouldn’t be.
Eventually, I moved to another state, and his family moved to Florida.
A few years later, I was in freshman English class in high school (year 9 for the Brits), and an office runner came and told me I had a phone call.
It was my mom. “Josh killed a girl.” I’m not sure why she thought it was necessary to tell me at school since there was nothing to be done about it, but I guess she wanted to break the news to me before I saw it online or something.
The story on Wiki is pretty accurate from there. His mom was cleaning his room while he was at school because it was starting to smell when she noticed a wet spot under his bed, investigated, and found the body of a missing neighbor girl.
She had been missing for a week or so, I think; it’s been a while. While she was missing, he had even participated in the neighborhood searches for her.
I remember following the story as it developed. It was weird af to be reading about the kid I used to play Mario with on cnn. There was a whole media circus about him. We weren’t involved in any way since we had been moved apart for years.
In hindsight, knowing what I know now, there’s still ZERO indication that he would do something like that. He wasn’t a problem kid, he never let on about any weird sexual things (even hints of budding weirdness), if anything, I was a bad influence on him - he was a well behaved kid and I was the friend that was always like “hey, let’s go throw rocks at cars” or something because I was a little shithead.
I 100% believe the “scared dumbass kid” story the defense put out. I don’t for a second believe any of the “sexually motivated” shit. Every 14 year old had porn hidden in their room in those days. That doesn’t make him a crazed sex killer.
He was a scared kid with a terrifying abusive father that panicked and did something horrifying that can never be taken back.
Did he murder a child? Yes. Is he to blame? 100%.
I do not condone, approve of, or support what he did in any way whatsoever. But knowing his dad, I understand WHY it happened.
Eh, I mean, clearly I’m not OKAY with what happened. It was a goddamned tragedy. But apart from initial shock and disbelief, it didn’t really affect me psychologically at all. It had been 4+ years since I had last spoken to him, and I wasn’t actually involved in any way apart from getting updates from my mom when she’d talk to his mom. So it didn’t leave any lasting effect. Not on me at least. I feel terrible for Maddie’s family and completely understand why they’d want him to rot in prison forever.
I’ve got two kids now, and if somebody did that to one of them… there’s a good chance I’D be the one in prison forever once I got ahold of the guy who did it.
I knew two that have their own pages, and know one mentioned in a Wikipedia page but doesn’t actually have his own dedicated page.
I knew:
Lee Vincent, my best friend’s dad when I was a kid.
And
Josh Phillips, another childhood friend, who, later on after we both moved away, murdered an eight year old girl and hid the body under his bed for several days. His mom found the body when it started to smell.
Currently:
My wife is a second cousin of the lead guitarist for a major international rock/metal band I guarantee you’ve heard of. We’ve hung out with him a few times. Really nice guy. I’m not putting the name because some of y’all creepy and might be able to identify us based on info in this post.
(Edited to remove potentially identifying familial relation)
Not trying to be a creep. But I wonder with this data, can a detective piece together who you are in real life.
Good point. Edited. Thanks for the lookout homie.
Heads up, your link to Josh P doesn’t seems to work I think it’s missing a closing bracket This one should work I think.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Phillips_(murderer))
Also, Jesus Christ… I imagine it’s pretty weird to have known someone who would did something like that.
Link works for me. I think the parens in the link target are borking it for some people.
As for what it’s like…. It’s weird. I knew him when we were both like 10 or so. My mom and his mom were pretty good friends, so I’d go over to his house any time they wanted to hang out.
He was a normal kid. He liked Nintendo and was trying to learn to play guitar.
His dad though… his dad was a raving psychopath. He used to beat the shit out of both him and his mom. I damn near caught a beating from him once until mom declared that if he was there, we wouldn’t be.
Eventually, I moved to another state, and his family moved to Florida.
A few years later, I was in freshman English class in high school (year 9 for the Brits), and an office runner came and told me I had a phone call.
It was my mom. “Josh killed a girl.” I’m not sure why she thought it was necessary to tell me at school since there was nothing to be done about it, but I guess she wanted to break the news to me before I saw it online or something.
The story on Wiki is pretty accurate from there. His mom was cleaning his room while he was at school because it was starting to smell when she noticed a wet spot under his bed, investigated, and found the body of a missing neighbor girl.
She had been missing for a week or so, I think; it’s been a while. While she was missing, he had even participated in the neighborhood searches for her.
I remember following the story as it developed. It was weird af to be reading about the kid I used to play Mario with on cnn. There was a whole media circus about him. We weren’t involved in any way since we had been moved apart for years.
In hindsight, knowing what I know now, there’s still ZERO indication that he would do something like that. He wasn’t a problem kid, he never let on about any weird sexual things (even hints of budding weirdness), if anything, I was a bad influence on him - he was a well behaved kid and I was the friend that was always like “hey, let’s go throw rocks at cars” or something because I was a little shithead.
I 100% believe the “scared dumbass kid” story the defense put out. I don’t for a second believe any of the “sexually motivated” shit. Every 14 year old had porn hidden in their room in those days. That doesn’t make him a crazed sex killer.
He was a scared kid with a terrifying abusive father that panicked and did something horrifying that can never be taken back.
Did he murder a child? Yes. Is he to blame? 100%.
I do not condone, approve of, or support what he did in any way whatsoever. But knowing his dad, I understand WHY it happened.
Wow, thanks for the detailed and nuanced insight. I’m sorry that something like that came into your life, and I hope you’re ok. Such a sad story.
Eh, I mean, clearly I’m not OKAY with what happened. It was a goddamned tragedy. But apart from initial shock and disbelief, it didn’t really affect me psychologically at all. It had been 4+ years since I had last spoken to him, and I wasn’t actually involved in any way apart from getting updates from my mom when she’d talk to his mom. So it didn’t leave any lasting effect. Not on me at least. I feel terrible for Maddie’s family and completely understand why they’d want him to rot in prison forever.
I’ve got two kids now, and if somebody did that to one of them… there’s a good chance I’D be the one in prison forever once I got ahold of the guy who did it.
Yeah, understood. Thanks again.