• z3rOR0ne
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    651 month ago

    Hmm…one of these seems more important to do than the others…

      • @grue@lemmy.world
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        481 month ago

        Recycling is literally the least important thing you can do (despite still being important).

        The phrase “refuse, reduce, reuse, repurpose, recycle” is listed in order of importance.

        • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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          321 month ago

          I hate that they added more shit. “Reduce, reuse, recycle” was perfect.

          “refuse” is literally the same thing as “reduce”

          “repurpose” is a subset of “recycle”

          What the fuck is it nowadays with wanting to tack on more useless shit to perfect mnemonics? Especially for a mnemonic whose entire point is to prevent wastefulness.

          • @snooggums@midwest.social
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            101 month ago

            “repurpose” is a subset of “recycle”

            Repurpose is reuse, just for a different use than originally intended.

            Your point about reduce, reuse, recycle being enough is absolutely correct and all I ever hear about is the recycle part which is counterproductive when it is used to justify mass consumption and disposable products.

          • @blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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            I’d think ‘repurpose’ is part of ‘reuse’ rather than recycle. Doesn’t recycle mean that you’re going to destroy the object to extract its raw resources to be made into a new product? Whereas ‘reuse’ just means that you are going to use it again. I’d say ‘repurpose’ means you are going to use it again, but not in the same way it was used the first time.

            In any case, I agree that the added words are unnecessary. Maybe they were added to deliberately weaken the slogan. Sometimes people deliberately try to make sustainable living sound like a lot of work, by adding a whole lot of extra steps and conditions.

            • BlanketsWithSmallpox
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              21 month ago

              Repurpose is also similar to recycle though.

              Because recycling’s entire point is to repurpose it into something else…

              Which might be why people also want repurpose… but I’m old and RRR is better than RRRRR. A mnemonics entire point is ease of memory.

              Recycle reuse damnit!

        • @FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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          141 month ago

          It is also important to mention that most plastic recycling still ends up in landfills. Plastic recycling was sold as myth by big oil and plastics companies to make consumers think the waste problems magically disappeared.

      • @Crampon@lemmy.world
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        Recycling your glass bottles won’t negate the effect of a private jet taxing or a yacht sailing for 20 seconds even.

        Always recycle. But don’t compare it to the incredible environmental impact the rich has on the planet. Everyone has equal rights of polluting. Some polluting is just necessary as a human life require energy to sustain. The rich and poor have the same quota.

        • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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          Stop making it sound as if “the rich” are the sole producer of emissions. Everyone has their share in this problem. Some more, some less, some far more. 1 million average people reducing emissions a bit is still more than one “rich person” reducing it a lot.

          • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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            181 month ago

            Stop making it sound as if “the rich” are the sole producer of emissions. Everyone has their share in this problem.

            Yeah, except it would be more accurate to say that the richest one percent have their 48 shares each.

            1 million average people reducing emissions a bit is still more than one “rich person” reducing it a lot

            So because each rich person isn’t responsible for a MILLION times as much, you want to pretend that they’re no worse at all? Fuck off with that nonsense!

            • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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              Hahaha, that is not what I said. I said everyone is responsible for driving less, looking at what they are buying, flying less, … Instead of just throwing their arms in the air and saying the rich are to blame for everything. And note that probably all of us here are part of the world’s top 10 %, given how poor most of the world is.

              • @blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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                I agree. The rich are the main problem, and that should be top priority. But that also shouldn’t be used as an excuse to not improve oneself personally. My suggestion is that people shouldn’t worry about aiming for personal idealism, but should just make a conscious effort to be less environmentally damaging than their peers, their family, work colleges, and friends. If a person achieves that, then they can be confident that they are not the problem.

                [edit] Obviously if everyone did what I’m suggesting then it would be a kind of race-to-the-bottom. But that’s not happening. If it was, then we wouldn’t be in this mess in the first place. All I’m suggesting is a rough heuristic for what’s reasonable for an individual to do on their own.

              • @Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world
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                21 month ago

                You are right, we should all do something. That’s why I solemnly pledge never to take a private jet and to not engage in Space tourism. I dare any billionaire to follow my lead.

    • @explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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      11 month ago

      Wow, way to not care about the environment. If you’re suggesting systemic change that can work, then I’m just saying you should make half-assed unilateral sacrifices that aren’t working. Or else you’re a dirty hypocrite!

      /s

        • @surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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          Sure. But where’s the option of a sedan where I can detach 75% of it when I just need to drive someplace alone? Where’s the electric car with 300 miles range under 30k?

          You can hate on trucks all day long, and I do too because trucks suck, but we’re still stuck with horrible polluting expensive options that were designed with efficiency of cash flow as their primary goal.

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        For real, I was looking at the newer subaru models. Outside of the BRZ (which is a rebranded toyota 86) all of em are SUV. It’s insane

        • @homesnatch@lemm.ee
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          61 month ago

          More like the Toyota 86 is a rebranded BRZ. The platform of both cars are made by Subaru, using the Subaru boxer engine, in a Subaru factory.

        • @chrizzowski@lemmy.ca
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          Crosstrek is pretty awesome though. It’s basically just an off-road lifted Impreza. I mountain bike and climb a bunch and some times get onto some pretty questionable roads. It’s great to have something that handles that, but also feels more or less like a smallish 2.0l hatchback the rest of the time.

          They are definitely getting bigger though this last year, and sad none of them are manual anymore. Luckily got the last model year that was

    • Beaver
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      161 month ago

      Right give me electric hatchbacks and sedans. Then start funding public transit as we fix North American infrastructure gore.

          • Beaver
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            101 month ago

            Look the transit in my town is 3.9 times longer than driving also it is not connected to other towns as of yet. But I will support any initiative to get people out of cars. I don’t want to be forced to drive the one I have. Active transport/transit is the most sustainable and safest way to get around. Damn I really wish I was living in Amsterdam right now.

    • @Corigan@lemm.ee
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      Pretty much the only option.

      Obama passed some great regulations to improve fuel economy and reduce pollution, but there’s different li.its for car type and an SUV is a truck standard so much easier tegs then sedans. That’s why you see so many SUV car things. It’s bullshit heaven forbid you do the right thing automakers.

      Easier to get an car/SUV ev then a sedan, model y, Lexus option, Kia etc are all half way SUV with the functionality of a sedan is dumb.

      • lad
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        151 month ago

        If anything, impressing peers is very natural, it probably predates humans as a species

      • Orphie
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        127 days ago

        Vanguard means the front. So either you don’t know what that means, fam, or you’re being sarcastic. O:

    • BlanketsWithSmallpox
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      41 month ago

      I’m sorry, best we can do is still allow you to invest in our stock market to hoard more so you can retire with a pittance through the magic money generation machine that requires unlimited GDP growth.

    • @FireRetardant@lemmy.world
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      141 month ago

      I’d argue if you just did #3 while changing nothing about the way we run our society, we would just need to repeat step 3 later down the line as new oligarchs and monopolies form and exploit us.

      • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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        Fair enough… but you’'ll never get the chance to do something about “the way we run our society” if you don’t do #3. They don’t fund, train, arm, and exempt from accountability the fascists for shits and giggles.

      • @Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net
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        11 month ago

        Don’t forget about the decades of strife and chaos after giving a group power based on their willingness to kill their political opponents

    • @aeharding@vger.social
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      Guillotine would transport well by bike, like a canoe or kayak…

      1. Secure the blade
      2. add wheels to heavier end
      3. add bike attachment to the other

      In fact, you could even make the wheels reusable for a nice kayak trip after using the guillotine! Win win!

    • Syl ⏚OP
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      Your video is interesting because I’m french, and there’s currently a comeback in the public space about Robespierre, that he wasn’t the monster the medias are trying to make of him. You can check some videos here:

      This means that the beginning of you video is most likely wrong about Robespierre.

      After saying that, I don’t legitimate the usage of the guillotine, and most readers understood it is usually associated with the french revolution 😉

      EATTAX THE RICH !

      • TigrisMorte
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        Rebellion is always illegal in the third person. While it is a less productive solution, guillotines are a perfectly legitimate cure for economic anxiety. It would be preferable for the Wealthy to be taxed fairly, however should the attempts to equalize the field fail, eventually the guillotine shall result. That is the whole point. It is a warning of History repeating, well rhyming any way, itself when society does not learn from said history.

        • Syl ⏚OP
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          we’ll see, but if it has to come to this, it will be a bloodshed.

      • zeekaran
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        21 month ago

        Lemmy made your links unreadable. Not your fault just voicing my complaint.

        • Syl ⏚OP
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          Thanks, it was my fault, I edited my post.

    • @HasturInYellow@lemmy.world
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      51 month ago

      Wow. Your video made me want to guillotine EVEN HARDER. It’s almost like the same shit happens in every revolution. But you know what, I’ll take my chances once I know the ones who are actively raping the planet are gone.