• FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    7 months ago

    Who would have thought that a game series where Americans of Chinese descent were rounded up and put into camps to be experimented upon might have something to say about racism?

    • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      7 months ago

      I remember making that discovery in Old World Blues and it was such a jarring tonal shift. It’s like “Wacky 50’s sci-fi movie concepts! Enjoy the campy robots and the funny scientists and this reference to an atrocity the US Government committed on its own soil and is still in living memory!”

    • theposterformerlyknownasgood [she/her]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      7 months ago

      Okay but the show isn’t that, and the show doesn’t say anything about racism. Segregation, the race based narrative of the cold war rhetoric, and casual racism of the American setting is fully excised.

  • regul [any]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    29
    ·
    7 months ago

    I’m more upset that there are still racially distinct people in Vault 33. It’s been 250+ years with a limited breeding pool (so much so they’re talking about “cousin stuff”) but not everyone is a shade of brown with dark hair?! Sounds like a vault full of racists!

      • yoink [she/her]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        edit-2
        7 months ago

        I mean, a key feature of it all is that

        late season spoiler

        new blood from pre-war keeps being regularly introduced from 31

        so I figure that’s how that’s happening

        • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          7 months ago
          spoiler

          Sure, but are they just killing off all the mixed race offspring? Because you’d think there’d be a majority of them, even if you’re dropping in more racially distinct people periodically, right?

    • invo_rt [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      7 months ago

      Yeah there isn’t even a facade anymore. They’ve anti-woked themselves right back into yelling about miscegenation.

  • BestBouclettes
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    7 months ago

    Fallout is totally not woke and, an in your face satire of capitalism, nope not at all.

    • theposterformerlyknownasgood [she/her]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      7 months ago

      I feel ambivalent about removing segregation when you’re making a depiction of 1950s Americana. Because on one hand, just as you can’t truly make an anti war film, making a show where segregation is truly explored is not something a lot of people (Especially white people) have the skill and background to realize, on the other it is a dishonest view of history that glosses over the historical crimes committed against minorities.

      • Redderthanmisty@lemmygrad.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        7 months ago

        The prologue of the show is supposed to be set in the late 21st century, so they can get away with getting rid of segregation in the pre-war period without delving into the issue all that much. Supposedly, the reason why pre-war America is still locked in the 50’s aesthetic despite being set in the future is because they hadn’t made significant advancements in developing the microchip in that timeline, and so instead of advancing to the digital era, most tech remained based on big and bulky analogue computing.