• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    That’s what I don’t understand.

    Biden is wildly unpopular for more reasons than he can fix before the election.

    If beating trump is all that matters, why the fuck are we running Joe Biden against him?

    The party learned nothing from Hillary. Or they’d rather have trump than someone who agrees with voters.

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      8 months ago

      If beating trump is all that matters, why the fuck are we running Joe Biden against him?

      Okay.

      Name who is running for the Dem nomination who will perform better than Joe Biden.

      Go.

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        Running for the nomination is a good way to be exiled from the party.

        Not that Democrat primaries are very democratic. They just run 5 slightly less progressive candidates that all agree the popular progressive can’t win who all drop out at the 11th hour.

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        It’s not our job to come up with a solution to a problem created by moderate and liberal voters, the DNC, establishment Democrats and Joe Biden himself. We had solid people running in the 2020 primaries. The people who voted for Joe Biden in the 2020 are responsible for figuring a way out of this mess. Not us.

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          It’s not our job to come up with a solution to a problem

          Yeah, that’s about the response I expected.

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            Moderates and liberals are free to come up with a solution. They are the majority of the voters after all. What’s their solution?

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              Moderates and liberals are free to come up with a solution. They are the majority of the voters after all. What’s their solution?

              “Vote for Joe Biden considering that he’s the best actual candidate running”?

              I dunno man, maybe we just don’t think “Surrender to fascism because we want to teach the DNC A Lesson™ like we TOTALLY did in 2016, 2004, and 2000” is a viable option. Guess we’re just not left-wing enough to understand that making sure fascism wins is the REAL left-wing praxis. /s

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                8 months ago

                “well if you can’t think of a solution, then ‘full speed towards the ravine’ is clearly the logical choice”

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                “Vote for Joe Biden considering that he’s the best actual candidate running”?

                i much prefer cornel west or jill stein

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                “Vote for Joe Biden considering that he’s the best actual candidate running”

                We did. In 2020. And then Biden proceeded to cater exclusively to moderate and liberals and left progressives and leftists out in the cold. In other words, the only solution moderates and liberals have put forward is “Give us everything, shut the fuck up and vote for who we tell you to.”

                Respectfully, we reject giving that “solution” a second try. What else have they got?

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                  We did. In 2020. And then Biden proceeded to cater exclusively to moderate and liberals and left progressives and leftists out in the cold.

                  Fucking lmao.

                  Respectfully, we reject giving that “solution” a second try.

                  Yeah, we get it, you crave fascism, you can stop shouting it from the rooftops.

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                    Yeah, we get it, you crave fascism

                    Is that why I voted for Biden in the 2020 general election?

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      If beating trump is all that matters, why the fuck are we running Joe Biden against him?

      Because Biden decided Trump is so awful he can still win.

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      “the party learned nothing from Hilary” I think they learned a few things, even if not as much as we’d like. They did turn down the power superdelegates have in primaries, for example. Moving in the right direction, even a little, is more than “nothing”.