You may have heard of the “Countering Violent Extremism” program under DHS.
They’ve deployed the tactics used to fight terrorists against domestic citizens. For example, incels. When I posted on the web forum incels dot is, I didn’t know it was Department of Homeland Security operation against men who say they are romantically deprived. I didn’t know I was interacting with larping feds who encourage extremist rhetoric. Consequently I was put on a watchlist and am subject to intrusive monitoring.
I share a lot of my experience here.
https://twitter.com/WrongedIncel
My question is, is it far that the government is so targeting incels?
edit: added archive link
They target a lot of groups.
They target “lone-actors”, most likely due to asocial behavior and more extreme view points.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210325054915/https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OPSR_TP_TEVUS_Comparing-Lone-Actor-Terrorism_Hate-Crimes_Group-Terrorism_2013-508.pdf
Direct Link: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/OPSR_TP_TEVUS_Comparing-Lone-Actor-Terrorism_Hate-Crimes_Group-Terrorism_2013-508.pdf
what’s so extreme about the emergent polygyny hypothesis which I enthusiastically endorse? that’s just going after people for their 1st amendment rights. also the larping feds at that dhs run website themselves encourage extremist rhetoric
Understanding the ideologies that motivate and support ideological crimes is a pretty useful step for preventing those crimes; also for investigating them once they happen. Same goes for (e.g.) violent religious movements, white-supremacist gangs, etc.
I have no problem with that but incels.is = DHS and violates the civil liberties of its unaware users (who in fact never see content from people like themselves.)
I think it’s important to acknowledge that yes, the government absolutely does have shadow organizations that violate American citizens constitutional rights. No one is disputing that.
The point that most people here are trying to help you notice is that there is help. A professional , trained therapist can help. A therapist, if they’re at all qualified, won’t dispute your stances in regard polygyny etc.
What follows includes some assumptions of who you are and I want to acknowledge that these might not look like your struggles. Guessing by analogy of my own experience, you feel a kind of helpless. You understand the situation as it is and you recognize that it is irrational to hope blindly that your understanding is wrong and tomorrow everything is just going to be better. A therapist isn’t paid to tell you that you are seeing your situation incorrectly, a therapist is paid to learn what you tell them you understand the world is like and help you find steps you can take from the position you’re in now.
The ideology you identify with is associated with a tendency toward terrorism / violent actions. That is what everyone here is trying to warn you about. You sound like what a rational person becomes in hopeless situations. Seek a therapist not because they will change your mind but instead so that someone who will work to understand how you’re rational and help you take rational steps from that place to one less hopeless.
This has been hyper-exaggerated by people who don’t like that perspective itself and have lobbied the government to stigmatize it by overly associating it with terrorism. It needn’t have been. It’s politicized horseshit. How is a therapist going to help me after I say incels.is = dhs? I want to share that with the internet not a therapist.
I understand, I could perhaps benefit from a therapist with regards to my personal issues but that’s outside that incels.is = DHS.