The president has been going after his presumptive 2024 opponent with a little more venom than usual

Joe Biden is taking it to Donald Trump.

The president’s campaign responded to Trump’s wild press conference in New York on Monday by slamming the former president as “weak and desperate — both as a man and a candidate for President.”

“He spent the weekend golfing, the morning comparing himself to Jesus, and the afternoon lying about having money he definitely doesn’t have,” the statement read, adding that “America deserves better than a feeble, confused, and tired Donald Trump.”

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    “weak and desperate — both as a man and a candidate for President.”

    “man” is quite generous.

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    I’d love to have campaign ads with trump talking about how much Obama golfed while in office and then compare it to how much trump golfed.

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      Wasn’t there also something that Obama almost exclusively golfed at Andrews Base, a secure location near D.C. while the other guy had to go to his own club where the Secret Service had to book rooms in Trumps own hotel?

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        Nah, use the Trump sound bites and show headlines and videos of Trump doing the thing he’s complaining about.

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    Time to take off the kid gloves. Part of the problem is that the Democrats have never really fought hard against the far right, the way they, for instance, fight against any progressive candidate that might rock the boat. They’d rather hand the country to the fascists than upset their sponsors.

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    Unlike Trump I think our law and order has enough crime already. Could it really handle more? It’s already judge Dredd out there if you live in the wrong area.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    “He spent the weekend golfing, the morning comparing himself to Jesus, and the afternoon lying about having money he definitely doesn’t have,” the statement read, adding that “America deserves better than a feeble, confused, and tired Donald Trump.”

    Trump spoke to the media in New York amid a very busy day for the former president’s legal docket.

    His comments came after a hearing in which Judge Juan Merchan rejected Trump’s bid to delay his criminal hush-money trial, setting it for April 15.

    Trump was livid at the ruling, accusing Merchan of participating in a Democratic conspiracy to keep him from reclaiming the White House.

    Trump has been whining incessantly about the civil fraud case on Truth Social, and ahead of the appeals court’s ruling, shared a message he said he received Monday morning comparing his plight to the persecution of Jesus Christ.

    He made a few gaffes as he ranted, confusing the election and his trial and promising to “bring crime back to law and order.” Trump also said he didn’t see much of a problem with having foreign governments help him pay for his bond despite his candidacy for president.


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      and promising to “bring crime back to law and order.”

      Cops: “Jokes on him, we’ve already got that covered!”

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        and promising to “bring crime back to law and order."

        Oops, accidentally said something true there.

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    “America deserves better than a feeble, confused, and tired Donald Trump.”

    Definitely true.

    But America also deserves someone better than Biden.

    We have two shit tier options, and no matter who wins, America loses.

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      Cut the both-sides shit. Trump is a convicted sex criminal and fraud who wants to end democracy. There is objectively a better choice between the two.

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        the only valid both sides is they are both way too old for the job. 1 old guy will give you the chance to vote for someone else in 4 years, the other will not. 1 guy has a record, tho spotty, looking out for your middle class, the other …

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          Biden is good, he’s just not great. To get someone better you need democracy and there’s a high chance we will lose that under Trump.

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        The comment seems more intended to push voters away from Biden and toward an RFK option than convincing anyone to vote for Trump. It’s stupid and easy to attack back, but we also need to be careful about what the strategy is.

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            This is the problem when there is no nuance to discussion or understanding. Everyone should vote for Biden—that doesn’t mean it’s great that we have two octogenarians duking it out in a “no YOURE more senile!” fight. And that’s before you get into the whole, y’know, participating in genocide thing.

            Biden is a terrible choice to have to make…but we all have to make it.

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              I think if those are your choices, you don’t deserve to be a country.

              If you ever find yourself supporting genocide in order to “save yourselves” from a worse candidate, you should stop and look at the system you’re choosing to engage with.

              Sometimes the system needs to be rebuilt.

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                The country is genocidal. The money behind and propping up the country are genocidal. The massive machinery that is favors, power, exploitation, state violence, and spying IS modern life under capitalism. Voting won’t change that.

                But. It will change how trans people are treated, how vicious we are to the poor, how destructive we are of what little environment we have left, how much we wield that unbelievable power and might to punish…whoever.

                Yeah, it’s a shitty decision. None of us are happy about it. None of us want this. But there is a worse option. Things aren’t so straightforward. Modern life means every dollar/euro/peso/whatever you spend is hurting someone for profit. “If those are your choices, you don’t deserve to be a person.” There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. There is no ethical vote to cast in a superpower. There is no ethical action in modern life because the system that put that option in front of you is built on exploitation. What’s the answer? Kill yourself? Think.

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                  I don’t know the answer. Nobody does. It’s a personal question. I’m glad you’re asking yourself and thinking about it. That’s my goal.

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        Trump isnt a convicted sex criminal… and the other guy has some serious sexual allegations too, outside of being creepy around kids

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          He was found liable for sexual abuse in NY civil court and fined $5 million for it.

          https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/politics/e-jean-carroll-trump-lawsuit-battery-defamation-verdict/index.html

          The judge made it very clear Trump is a rapist, saying:

          “The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ”

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

          Biden has never been charged in civil or criminal court for any sexual impropriety. It is simply a lie that there are any serious sexual allegations against him.

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            He was not convicted of rape.

            And if you compare what biden allegedly did to what trump allegedly did, Bidens accusation seems much more accurate. It actually had colloborating evidence at the time, vs no evidence against trump.

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              The judge in the case said Trump was convicted of rape. There are no credible accusations against Biden. You are repeating lies.

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                Please tell me one of the juror names in the trump rape conviction.

                Why dont you believe women when they claim they are raped?

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                  The jurors are anonymous as is common in trials where the defendant has a history of calling for violence against people he views as his enemies.

                  I believe women who take their rapists to court.

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                  No thank you. I don’t like to engage too much with people who can’t be bothered to proof-read their own posts.

                  Nor do I enjoy discussions with people who are so assured of their own self-righteousness that they ignore documented facts in lieu of their own personal opinions.

                  It just so happens that I also don’t much enjoy arguing with people who have a documented public history of arguing in bad faith.

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        It’s not both-sides to say that Genocide Joe sucks ass. Yes, Trump is worse. But Biden is still awful. I don’t say that in some effort to appease the right or sound somehow neutral, I say it because it’s true.

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          Nah, you say it to sap unity and make people stay home from voting.

          Your vibe is the same as the girls who say they bluntly “tell it as they see it” in their dating profile, but anyone with any relationship experience knows that means they’re completely willing to make things toxic as fuck because they’ll just vomit their selfish so called truth anywhere without caring about consequences or how it destroys, because it serves some sort of other motivation for them.

          Using words to encourage people to embrace hopelessness and not vote is a propaganda technique to put Trump back in the Whitehouse, and him being there weakens the nation so immensely and catastrophically that it’s extremely attractive to cash and weapons poor enemies to plop someone in front of a cheap computer to spread propaganda to attempt to destroy a nation from within. People who can’t fight the US with military might will use words instead.

          In short, your words are not neutral. You’re either what is called a useful idiot, an ordinary person who swallowed outside propaganda whole and does the work of other interests here, or you’re a knowing perpetrator.

          I hope people here use whatever skills they picked up in English class however many years ago to think about not just the exact words of the poster I’m responding to, but why they posted this thing at this moment, their motivations beyond what they claim they are, and the effects of an appeal to truth on a reader and how that can influence perception even when the thing said isn’t actually necessarily true or contains such a small flake of some truth that it is effectively turns into a lie when put beside the bigger and more vast and complicated truths.

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            People shouldn’t stay home on election day just because Biden is a terrible piece of shit. People should go at the very least to vote down ballot, if not to vote against Trump. Nor should people feel hopeless. There are so many avenues to pursue outside of simple electoral politics (again, do vote). But I’m not going to cave to this loyalty test bullshit. Also the money is good, praise Mother Russia.

            In short, your words are not neutral.

            Yes. That is literally what I said.

            Look, I agree that “telling it like it is” can be a toxic trait (although as long as we’re discussing the subtext, it’s interesting that you used the example of “girls”. I’m sure you didn’t mean to, I’m not leveling accusations at you, we all do this to some degree or another, but that is definitely an appeal to misogyny. You could have compared me to Bill Maher, which frankly would have pissed me off a whole lot more). But the truth does matter, and appeals to nuance/arguing procedural or rhetorical points while ignoring the realities is also toxic. Children in Gaza are dying, and Biden has actively helped with that. Call it propaganda, call it whatever you want, but innocent people are dead, as a result of a genocidal campaign helped by Biden.

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                  LOL Trump is telling Israel to hurry up (aka genocide harder). The nickname isn’t really appropriate for Biden given the global context.

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              Those stats go back 35 years. He’s maybe the only person that’s been in office that long, of course he’s going to accumulate the most.

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                That’s not really a knock against his statement. That he has gotten a lot from Israel for a long time, and so may feel beholden to them.

                I am also getting absolute sick of all of the people who are jumping down the throats of people who express weariness at Joe Biden being the democratic nominee. Like ffs, he is in no way representing my interests and is another step tword the right. It may be slower then the full on sprint of the Republican Party, but my ONLY input into this process is my vote. In the primaries i sure as shit did not vote for joe, and anyone refusing to vote because of the bull shit he’s pulled is justified.

                Instead of blaming the disenfranchised you and the Democrats should find a better politician and better politics

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          “no matter who wins, America loses”

          That sounds like both-sides to me. Biden has done some objectively great things for Americans even with a senate fighting him for the first 2 years and a Congress for the last 2

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            I can definitely point to more good things Biden has done in his term than Trump did in his. Plus there’s the mountain of Trump’s crimes to compare with the non-mountain of non-crimes on Biden’s side. Of course, I’m not a fan of Biden’s authoritarian tendencies, but again Trump is far worse in that area.

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          Ah yes, someone who enables genocide by continuing existing funding practices is totally deserving of that specific nickname while the other guy who has repeatedly said he would literally do what Israel is doing and that Israel should ‘finish the job’ doesn’t get a pithy nickname.

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            The cosplayers will always write “Genocide Joe” and will always fail to note that Donald is intentionally referencing the “Final Solution” from the Nazis.

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      Look, let’s get this out of the way. I’m not a Democrat. Didn’t vote for Biden or Trump at any point. Yet comparing them one is clearly capable and one is not. How does that make them equal? That’s delusional thinking.

      Do I want a better candidate than either of them? Sure, but it’s not going to happen this election cycle. And yes it’s fucked these are the only choices we get.

      Yet which one is really likely to fuck us over? The answer to that isn’t Biden. Not by a longshot.

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        The problem with this is that we have history with both of them, and we can see what they did. I am not going to vote for either of them, but biden has been objectively an incompetent president, probably the worst president in the modern era outside of Bush.

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          so between eating a shit sandwich or being driven off a cliff and potentially dying, you’d chose death? honestly the dumbest take I’ve heard in a while. thanks for the laugh, I guess 🤡

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            You can claim what you wish, but the current president is the one that got us invovled in two wars that lead directly to WW3. Just because you guys got TDS doesnt meant the delusions are true.

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        How does that make them equal?

        No one said it was.

        If you can vote for a president who not only went around Congress to fund a genocide, but also went around Congress to prevent aid to the victims…

        That’s your decision that you will have to live with

        Maybe that’s not a big deal for you. Maybe it’s harder on me because I’m a third generation disabled veteran.

        But everyone has a line. I truly help the DNC gets better before your line is crossed.

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      Found the right wing. Or the Russian.

      The most important thing is NOT Trump. We can worry about that other thing like RANKED VOTING after that

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      Yeah totally agree. Biden is the least bad as an outsider, but he’s still a shit candidate and the fact the Democrats chose him shows how weak and poorly run they are as a party.

      Biden is the least bad option in a 2 man race but fundamentally US democracy is broken and rotten to its core.

      The fact polls show it neck and neck at this stage, given trumps legal woes and his attempt to overthrow the last election result, bodes very badly.