• Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Watching them go from “We need less people, depopulate now!” To “Wait wait!! We meant less non-white people. Breed! BREED!!”

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    Who the fuck are ‘‘globalists’’? This is the exact same talking point idiots here in Serbia have, literally word for word copied and pasted…

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      8 months ago

      A conservative talking point that takes anti-Capitalist sentiment and twists it into Reactionary crap. (i.e., “The Wealthy Elites do stuff at the expense of everyone else worldwide” turns into “DURRR THE WOKE GLOBALISTS WANT TO ERASE STRAIGHT WHITE PEOPLE REEEE”)

      My guess is that it diverts attention away from the Bourgeoisie and instead turns it into Chauvinism (which the Bourgeoisie can more easily handle)

      Also the “Globalist” rhetoric reactionaries like to use is loaded with antisemitic dogwhistles iirc

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      globalists, iluminati, whatever are the current iteration of the international jew. since ww2 being openly antisemitic isn’t so accepted anymore, so they changed the vocabulary a little, but content wise is the same shit.

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    The thing I don’t get about these sorts of conspiracy theories is “why?” What do the “globalists” gain from having a smaller population? They always assert some vague “They” want to do some vague “bad thing” but they just kind of state it like this.

    Unless this is a white supremacist talking about “people” when they just mean “white people” and don’t consider non-whites to be people. Damn. It’s probably that, isn’t it?

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    These people are very frustrating. They throw around buzzwords like it’s a sport but don’t actually use said words the way they’re supposed to. They’ve essentially said a whole lot of nothing here. Climate change doesn’t exist? We’ve visually seen the evidence. Depopulate the earth? Well climate change is t the only reason why people aren’t having children, cost is a very, if not the big one (there’s also relationship issues too like with the 4b movement). I don’t know which “elites” this person is talking about but if it’s current American leadership then they’re also doing a bad job at depopulating considering abortion access has become increasingly difficult and/or outright inaccessible. In Canada our healthcare system is being purposefully undermined to aid in pushing private healthcare which honestly seems like a better way to depopulate as people aren’t going to get the help they need because they can’t afford it. People like this confuse me…

  • SadArtemis🏳️‍⚧️@lemmygrad.ml
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    Mere propaganda won’t be enough to dissuade most people from having kids if they wanted them (though the social pressure of having kids has gone down immensely- a very good thing IMO, as someone coming from a large family with shitty experiences in that regard will attest).

    The main problem is capitalism; an anti-human economic order making children an economic detriment to one’s wellbeing. The second issue (and not problem) is that people are simply getting wise to the fact they don’t have to be forced to be baby-breeding machines or trapped within the bourgeois type/standards of family- education and societal progress will do that. But most people would still probably like kids if we weren’t all trapped in these neoliberal hellscapes.

    All that said I’m pretty happy about (white western European, and especially white Anglosphere) population decline, not that I place some excessive importance on it. These societies, run by whites, have created a nightmare of a world for humanity to live in, and this is the natural result- but past that, the demographic diminishing of white westerners, the typically most loyal and agreeable to this shit world order, in comparison to the rest of the world- can only be a good thing; something exacerbating the contradictions of the empire. Whites aren’t inherently worse in any way, or inherently different, but a white American/English/French/etc person as I see it is certainly more likely to have some utterly shit takes and perhaps see their self-interest as tied to maintaining the present racist, imperialist order. Especially if they’re a settler. So statistically, I think it’s a good thing.

    I wish there were more Russians, Serbs, Belarusians, and Irish, though- within the confines of their indigenous lands and regions, not as squatters joining the settler-societies in the Americas, of course. Their nations are allies and friends of the global south, and thus regardless of their issues, a force for resisting and overthrowing the present racist, imperialist order IMO- and the more substantial they would be, the better. A 40-million strong Serbian population would certainly be a challenge for western geopolitical aims in the Balkans, for instance- and same with a billion-strong Russia. The more anti-western (this can include western whites who recognize how terrible their societies are) and anti-imperialist whites there are, the better. The same logic goes for any race really- but by all means I think it is also an incredibly fitting karmic retribution (not that I have any religious or pseudoscientific belief in karma) that the stolen, genocided lands of the Americas and Australia, and the imperial cores of Europe, should diminish- demographically in regards to their white settler or native (European) populations, and economically (as their place in the world is wholly inappropriate and based in imperialism), and otherwise.