I wish, but I think some of his more… enthusiastic supporters would get violent.
I imagine that the Federal and Georgian governments want to avoid a horde of people rioting and trying to free him from jail. There would be assholes just itching to open fire on “the deep state” and you’d need the national guard to defend the prison/jail. Even if the trumpists started it, such a thing might actually spark a civil war.
If you don’t do the right thing because you’re afraid of bad actors, then the bad actors have won. I’m afraid of violence, too. But if the courts find him guilty on a charge that leads to incarceration, then he should be held to the same standard.
I just had a thought. . . Put trump in jail as bait. . … let his followers come to “rescue” him. . . . Let them experience the American military power that they love so much. . . I don’t think their AR-15s are going to be much help vs tanks and helicopters and satellites, etc
Let them get violent… we need to speed this shit up and have the civil war already before another GQP president had control over the military. Sure, people are gonna die… but it won’t be anyone on the left.
My first instinct was to shame you for your indifference of right-leaning human lives lost, but I would rather use this as an opportunity to educate since I thought the same as you at one point.
January 6th was a violent insurrection, and as a result of that violence, people who were doing their jobs were traumatized to the point of suicide, and the traitor Ashley Babbitt is immortalized as a saint. The “GQP” will look at comments like yours and say “THE LEFT HATES TRUE PATRIOTIC AMERICANS AND WANT TO KILL US” to rally their supporters into a frenzy. Leaders will use more polarizing language and all but ensure the next January 6 style attack will be bloodier and more effective. Innocent people will be wrapped up in this, and people will die, whether you think they deserve it or not.
We need to treat this with the urgency of a severe mental health crisis. We’re quite literally witnessing mass cult brainwashing where people I love and respected fall down this rabbit hole of an abusive relationship between themselves and these far right provocateurs. For those that have not committed crimes against their fellow man, we should work towards helping them. For those who have, let the courts deal with them and have them rot.
I’d implore you to re-read my comment. I’m asserting a call to action to those who can be saved. Nazis wish harm on their fellow man. Let them rot.
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When I say let the Nazis rot, I mean lock them up and throw away the key. In my opinion, those who deny others their freedom should be doomed to having their freedoms stripped away.
I agree with the sentiment, but the ones that have fallen down the rabbit hole are virtually impossible to reach. I had someone I knew go that way. We previously had excellent political discussions and pushed each other to examine our biases, but now he drunkenly rambles about the evil libs online.
Meanwhile those unreachable people are feeling more and more persecuted and their beliefs (which are already based on fear) confirmed. Maybe they keep their heads in the sand and “trust the plan,” but when they realize the storm is never coming, they may resort to violence.
I definitely agree with what you’re saying. Some people are too far gone that no amount of facts and logic will persuade them. Innuendo Studios put out an excellent suite of videos on how the alt right is like an abusive relationship and a cult. I won’t waste your time reiterating his points.
I do have a friend, let’s call him Greg, who is ultra religious and genuinely believes that he needs a carrying permit for his firearm because there’s no way to tell who has a gun willing to put him and his family in harms way. He also believes a lot of the talking points that you would expect about abortion, LGBTQ rights, etc. Whenever I debate Greg, he backs up his claims with how he feels and the superfluous fact that erases some pretty important context. He has no idea he’s being misled on issues specifically designed to polarize us. Greg also believes that white people are the most discriminated against in today’s world, and trans people “are coming”. He’s very fearful of his fellow man for someone who’s supposed to love his neighbor, but as his friend of almost 10 years, I know he would never hurt a fly.
With the exception to abortion, he’s been slowly outgrowing this culture of fear and is adopting more middle of the road stances. I’m not sure how he snapped out of the fear-mongering, but I’m just glad he did.
Thank you for clarifying what you meant with your original comment, it’s most definitely a message I’m more on board with! At the end of the day, we are more human rights while the right is more tax cuts for the rich.
There’s also no need to thank me for not shaming you, but it is appreciated and you’re welcome! Just because we’re on the internet doesn’t mean you’re not owed basic human decency.
I wish, but I think some of his more… enthusiastic supporters would get violent.
I imagine that the Federal and Georgian governments want to avoid a horde of people rioting and trying to free him from jail. There would be assholes just itching to open fire on “the deep state” and you’d need the national guard to defend the prison/jail. Even if the trumpists started it, such a thing might actually spark a civil war.
They’re already violent, and getting more so. Appeasing them isn’t going to make them suddenly behave.
If you don’t do the right thing because you’re afraid of bad actors, then the bad actors have won. I’m afraid of violence, too. But if the courts find him guilty on a charge that leads to incarceration, then he should be held to the same standard.
Truth. I’m definitely overly cautious!
I hope they do.
That way our national guard can put them down.
Atlantan here. Bring it on; I don’t give a shit. We can arrest all the Cobb County MAGA terrorists too, while we’re at it!
They can all go to jail with him.
I just had a thought. . . Put trump in jail as bait. . … let his followers come to “rescue” him. . . . Let them experience the American military power that they love so much. . . I don’t think their AR-15s are going to be much help vs tanks and helicopters and satellites, etc
Let them get violent… we need to speed this shit up and have the civil war already before another GQP president had control over the military. Sure, people are gonna die… but it won’t be anyone on the left.
#consequences 🤪
A civil war would mean drone dropped grenades like in Ukraine. A lot of people on both sides would die and many more would be maimed.
They don’t have the balls to start a war.
My first instinct was to shame you for your indifference of right-leaning human lives lost, but I would rather use this as an opportunity to educate since I thought the same as you at one point.
January 6th was a violent insurrection, and as a result of that violence, people who were doing their jobs were traumatized to the point of suicide, and the traitor Ashley Babbitt is immortalized as a saint. The “GQP” will look at comments like yours and say “THE LEFT HATES TRUE PATRIOTIC AMERICANS AND WANT TO KILL US” to rally their supporters into a frenzy. Leaders will use more polarizing language and all but ensure the next January 6 style attack will be bloodier and more effective. Innocent people will be wrapped up in this, and people will die, whether you think they deserve it or not.
We need to treat this with the urgency of a severe mental health crisis. We’re quite literally witnessing mass cult brainwashing where people I love and respected fall down this rabbit hole of an abusive relationship between themselves and these far right provocateurs. For those that have not committed crimes against their fellow man, we should work towards helping them. For those who have, let the courts deal with them and have them rot.
Again with this shit.
Nazis will say the left hates patriots NO MATTER WHAT THE LEFT does.
The truth DOES NOT MATTER to them.
So stop with the appeasement bullshit.
Makes punching Nazis acceptable again.
Fuck yeah! Fuck those fucking nazis.
I’d implore you to re-read my comment. I’m asserting a call to action to those who can be saved. Nazis wish harm on their fellow man. Let them rot.
Edit:
When I say let the Nazis rot, I mean lock them up and throw away the key. In my opinion, those who deny others their freedom should be doomed to having their freedoms stripped away.
They don’t rot. They fester. They survive and grow until they take over. They must be stopped at whatever cost.
I feel like my comment was unclear. I’ll edit it now. Sorry for the confusion.
Letting one apple rot spoils the whole damn bunch.
I feel like my comment was unclear. I’ll edit it now. Sorry for the confusion.
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I agree with the sentiment, but the ones that have fallen down the rabbit hole are virtually impossible to reach. I had someone I knew go that way. We previously had excellent political discussions and pushed each other to examine our biases, but now he drunkenly rambles about the evil libs online.
Meanwhile those unreachable people are feeling more and more persecuted and their beliefs (which are already based on fear) confirmed. Maybe they keep their heads in the sand and “trust the plan,” but when they realize the storm is never coming, they may resort to violence.
I definitely agree with what you’re saying. Some people are too far gone that no amount of facts and logic will persuade them. Innuendo Studios put out an excellent suite of videos on how the alt right is like an abusive relationship and a cult. I won’t waste your time reiterating his points.
I do have a friend, let’s call him Greg, who is ultra religious and genuinely believes that he needs a carrying permit for his firearm because there’s no way to tell who has a gun willing to put him and his family in harms way. He also believes a lot of the talking points that you would expect about abortion, LGBTQ rights, etc. Whenever I debate Greg, he backs up his claims with how he feels and the superfluous fact that erases some pretty important context. He has no idea he’s being misled on issues specifically designed to polarize us. Greg also believes that white people are the most discriminated against in today’s world, and trans people “are coming”. He’s very fearful of his fellow man for someone who’s supposed to love his neighbor, but as his friend of almost 10 years, I know he would never hurt a fly.
With the exception to abortion, he’s been slowly outgrowing this culture of fear and is adopting more middle of the road stances. I’m not sure how he snapped out of the fear-mongering, but I’m just glad he did.
There’s always hope.
I hear your opinion, but I disagree. Thank you for not trying to shame me, because I wouldn’t feel shame for being (what I feel is) right.
I’m not asking for a war… but if they want to try to “rise up,” the army will mow them down and we can all go back to a “normal” political landscape.
What utopia it would be, in comparison to the mental illness that is the right.
Thank you for clarifying what you meant with your original comment, it’s most definitely a message I’m more on board with! At the end of the day, we are more human rights while the right is more tax cuts for the rich.
There’s also no need to thank me for not shaming you, but it is appreciated and you’re welcome! Just because we’re on the internet doesn’t mean you’re not owed basic human decency.
Well, telling me you didn’t shame me is kind of like shaming me and also saying you’re better then me at the same time ;)
So, thanks for saying thanks 😉😉