Speaking with reporters at the end of his visit to the capital Kiyv, Justin Trudeau accused Putin of “executing” opposition leader Alexei Navalny.

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    9 months ago

    That’s not an argument, heart attacks, aneurysms happen. Of course prison environment, bad sleep, bad food, cold etc affected this.

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      9 months ago

      It doesn’t matter in the first place. If your political opponent dies in jail, it’s a bad look, and Putin’s have a habit of doing it all the time. And that’s if they don’t fall out a window first! Please don’t act like there’s some question what’s going on. You know Putin ran the KGB right? Probably some cold war spy experience, I don’t recall… The man killed his way to the top and then killed his way back down just to keep the tree looking nice. As murdering dictators go he really is a great model.

      Tis a silly discussion.

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        You know Putin ran the KGB right?

        He didn’t, he wasn’t any kind of a boss from what I read. We have your imagination altering things quite a lot right here.

        And that’s if they don’t fall out a window first!

        By the way, this is not a known joke in Russia. There are also no bears roaming Moscow streets.

        Real political opponents have mostly been shunned by state-controlled media to the degree most people considered them madmen or potential terrorists, and then with time passing some died, some grew out of relevance.

        A few have been killed, yes, in a very short period of time during the second Chechen war. Starovoitova, Politkovskaya. EDIT: And with no irony if only they hadn’t, Russia would be completely different.

        Then people of worse kind (like Nemtsov or Sobchak etc, who themselves participated in creating the system of government Putin uses) claimed that they are the opposition now, that didn’t quite work out, but interesting that even such a completely fake “elite” can evolve. I’m not sure if Nemtsov’s murder was even connected to politics TBF.

        And then people like Navalny (initially doing some kind of nationalist activism, against immigration, street crime and corruption) suddenly became the opposition and themselves changed with time. It’s fascinating how a society evolves.

        This maybe doesn’t belong here, point is there hasn’t been many defenestrations involved.

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          Obviously there’s no bears in the streets. They’d be in the alleys, duh. ;)

          I defer to your superior expertise on all points, and apologize for getting uppity! The man’s legend is simply legendary, that’s all.