• the_wizard_of_0Z@lemmy.ca
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    4 hours ago

    When will you people learn. Electoral politics is jover in cheese burgerland. I am waiting for the pain to get so bad that you eventually see the light. The democrats HATE their base. They HATE you. Yes you.

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    1 day ago

    Whole lot of "we’ve got to"s, what a rousing line from Jeffries. Bitch, I know what needs to be done, you’re the one that’s supposed to do it, what is this conversation?

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      He’s copying Schumer’s approach of listing his grievances without even a hint of a plan to stop it. The only difference is Jeffries doesn’t need to read it from a piece of paper.

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    2 days ago

    Dam, my man got boo’d. Anyone know why people support Jeffries? Is it primarily zionists or what?

    Looking for genuine information, because that Guy has the charisma of a ripped trash bag.

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      1 day ago

      Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

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            Ok, you don’t know that.

            I guess I should’ve aske d if anyone KNOWS anyone that likes him, and do they say why?

            Edit: to clarify, is this some sort ofzionism event he’s at? Or ann event hosted by Israel?

            Edit 2: it’s a moderate Democrats PAC hosted event. I can surmise the kind of people that show up to that… Still don’t know why people like Jeffries though

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      It could be a lot of things. Many events aren’t open directly to the public. Sometime they fill seats by giving them away or giving priority access to certain groups or events. You don’t generally have people walking up and buying ticket and even if you do it’s not always shared in placed the average American would know to look. Best case, These are poli-sci students that went because a professor told them to.

      My general guess is that on top of what I said above, this is simply an establishment event in an establishment town and so the audience is likely mostly establishment insiders and not the general people.

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    I’m out of the loop on the Jeffries hate. I don’t know anything about him and haven’t seen much concrete other than proclaiming that we hate him. Can someone please explain what is the problem with him that causes him to be public enemy #1 on the left?

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      I think the biggest problem with Jeffries is that, for the last two years, he and Schumer have been the highest ranking Democrats in elected office. They should have been the ones setting the agenda and putting forth compelling messaging that resonates with voters. Instead, they chose to represent everything that the American public at large sees as wrong with the Dems. Mamdani breaks out as a superstar and establishes the theme for the midterms, and feckless Schumer and Jeffries couldn’t even endorse the Democratic nominee for their own city over a salty sex pest. They’d rather make backroom deals with Republicans and unelected fuckwits like Jared Kushner. It’s not just the left that hates Dem leadership, their approval ratings are below Trump’s.

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        Got it. So it’s not something specific he did, it’s that people who care about the Democratic Party want a leadership change there.
        Personally, I think it would be better to leave the 2 party system behind and let powerful upcoming politicians like mamdani, talarico, etc form their own, fresh platform. There is thin chance of salvaging something good out of the DNC given their past 30 years have been about the clintons and bidens. Both the dnc and rnc are rotten to the core and a huge net minus for America and democracy. If I have to pick one out of the 2, it’s still an easy choice, but it would be nice to have actually inspiring options. The stories of Scott Colom and Adam Hamilton are great examples why the dnc is not supporting what their voters want.

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          I can’t speak for everyone, but I personally find his communication skills and political instincts lacking. He’s an absolute void of charisma who recently reaffirmed his opposition to Medicare for All. His tactic in speeches has been to just gesture vaguely at “affordability” without any specifics. I believe that we’re in a moment where people are finally looking for more than just identification of the problem, they want at least a quick shorthand of your proposed solution. The Speaker should at the very least be a skilled orator, since they’re the face of the party for the next two years. There’s already an entire role dedicated to whipping votes for both parties, so I don’t care how effective the party leaders are at it.

          As a matter of pragmatism, you really can’t leave the two-party system behind in the US. First-past-the-post elections make it nearly impossible to win outside of the two competitive parties on a statewide/nationwide ticket. There is simply too large of a fundraising and media coverage gap to overcome. I’d love if there were an amendment to switch to something like mixed-member proportional representation, but it would require an amendment, which is just never happening.

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            Maybe getting rid of the 2 party system is not in the realm of possibility, but building something new from grassroots donors and let the dnc die, I think, could be possible. They won’t keep getting big donor money if they can’t get votes, and progressive candidates proved time and again that they can win elections without dnc support.

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      The last 2 years he’s been rolling over and showing his belly to Republicans. Every step of the way he never pushes back, never even tries to do anything helpful, then has a media day where he acts like he’s doing all he can.

      He’s absolutely useless as a Democrat and needs to be voted out.

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      To keep it really simple, for me I just don’t support any politician that takes corporate/PAC money. They can not be trusted. Period. End of story. You could list all the specific issues he’s bad on, but this is the core of the problem. Jefferies is just the current corporate stooge the party is pushing for Speaker of the House, so opposing him specifically is currently necessary if we don’t want all of our progressive wins to go to waste. Same with Schumer in the Senate Majority race.

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      His stupid fucking hand gestures are 100% trying to be just like Obama. just like with his cadence of speaking. The guy is a fucking LARPing asshat.

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      Obama was a fake progressive too. Jefferies lives in a fantasy world where Obama’s politics would still be relevant. This is not that America anymore. People want strong action, not milquetoast centrist compromise. We saw Donald Trump and the Republican steam roll everything through for the last two years, so we know it’s possible. We all know that centrist compromise shit always favors the rich over us. We’re sick of corporate stooges doing Progressive cosplay.

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    So the initial complaint is that he didn’t do a good enough job as house minority leader to get everyone to vote to impeach Hegseth, with the implied accusation being that this was intentional and a result of corruption? Then demanding he make sure BAAJA doesn’t pass, and saying he’s corrupt and unqualified to lead because of accepting corporate funding. I think that’s what the protester is saying, was hard to make out.

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        Again, I’m just trying to piece together what’s being said in the video, not talking about why people have a problem with this guy overall

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          Ok my bad, thought you meant people didn’t have an issue until just now, when it’s been clear for some time that he sucks

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          I mean its some kind of organized protest. If you follow along closely in the audio, there are others who chime in once security reacts to the first guy.

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              That is also happening but listen on the right side of the stage, there is another protester who also gets up and starts hecking.

              I think the general crowd is trying to shout the protestors down.