• joyvio@lemmy.wtfEnglish
    5·
    9 months ago

    Every time I see this meme, I get progressively closer to understanding what they want to solve

      • ThePyroPython@lemmy.worldEnglish
        29·
        9 months ago

        Here’s a fun game:

        Pick any Wikipedia article. Click the first link. Keep clicking the first link. Eventually you’ll end up at Philosophy and forever be in a loop going back to Philosophy.

        Turns out conscious thinking and applying logical rigor is the basis for everything we perceive.

        • kboy101222@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          19·
          9 months ago

          I’m trying this out.

          Here’s the results: Shadow King (Marvel character): success after about 10 links

          Ernest Shackleton (article of the day): 10 clicks

          Wikipedia (the article): 4 clicks

          Church of the Holy Mother of God, Bolshiye Saly: 14 clicks

          James Loren Martin: 24 clicks

          Annette Ziegler: 14 clicks

          Almost all of them went through Philosophy of Science or Philosophy of Art. Seems like a pretty reliable rule.

            • baseless_discourse@mander.xyzEnglish
              2·
              9 months ago

              If you don’t count link that leads to help, then Japanese language will lead to a loop of only 2 clicks.

              See the original post.

          • deo@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            4·
            9 months ago

            wouldn’t count that stuff in the parenthesis, as it’s just showing the translation of “japonic lanuages” and then the transliteration of that translation. Sometimes they’ll have pronunciation or whatever in parentheses, and that shouldn’t count for the same reason.

            If instead of clicking on “japanese” again, you had clicked on “language family”, you’d get all the way to philosophy in 8 or 9 clicks (i lost count and i’m too lazy to fix it).

        • EmoDuck@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          5·
          9 months ago

          There seem to be a couple of loops where you always end up circling between the same through pages

        • baseless_discourse@mander.xyzEnglish
          2·
          9 months ago

          If this is true, then every wikipedia page will eventually lead to wikipedia of Greek, because the philosophy page leads to greek.

          Hence, Greek best country confirmed by wikipedia?!

      • Haagel@lemmings.worldEnglish
        51·
        9 months ago

        You know what I mean, brother. There’s a huge scope of difference between applied sciences and natural philosophy. Our technological advancements fail to resolve fundamental questions about the human condition. Scientists rarely study epistemology or philosophy in order to attain our degrees and I think it shows in the public trend toward scientism.

          • fsxylo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            31·
            9 months ago

            Lol, I love when the woo community can’t argue in good faith, so have to artificially drag science to their level by calling it “scientism”.

            Magic isn’t real because you can’t prove it’s real, and science isn’t opposed to magic, because magic isn’t on the playing board.

            • Haagel@lemmings.worldEnglish
              11·
              9 months ago

              Scientism is the dogmatic belief that empirical science is the only source of knowledge. It’s not arguing in bad faith to say that this is a dangerously flawed ideology.

              The inconvenient truth about scientific research is that 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘦𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘰𝘧 𝘥𝘢𝘵𝘢 𝘪𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘭𝘧-𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘥𝘦𝘯𝘵. Information requires a metaphysical framework in order to be interpreted in way that makes sense.

              Lacking a philosophical foundation, scientism produces dangerous results, like when Hitler and his ilk explicitly referred to Darwinism as their justification for the Holocaust.

            • Grail (capitalised)@aussie.zoneEnglish
              11·
              9 months ago

              I’m a degree-holding job-working scientist and I love science. I also love magic. Magic can be proven. Scientists have published hundreds of papers on the powerful placebo effect, also known as magic. Don’t tell me you’re going to deny the existence of the placebo effect?