• 100_percent_a_bot@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      How is arbitrarily shooting rockets in Israels general direction and occasionally hitting your own hospitals self defense? And how is this helping anyone?

      Over the past centuries they fought their fight, lost over and over again and are now in a dead end. Now hamas has to be thrown out so the Palestinians vote someone in who can actually be negotiated with.

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        9 months ago

        @100_percent_a_bot Considering Israel has been the one refusing to negotiate and sabotaged the formation of a Palestinian state, your comment reeks of ignorance

        But if you think that legitimate Palestinian resistance fighters should have guided weapons, I’d support that after all their colonizer does

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          9 months ago

          Negotiating with a party that was specifically founded to destroy Israel is pointless. Also Palestine could be a state if Abbas didn’t fuck up the negotiations by demanding more and more and walking away with nothing in the end.

          Them not having better weapons is something I’d consider a skill issue. They suck at politics and have to rely on Iran and jihads because everyone else in the area will loudly condemn Israel while quietly doing fuckall and endorsing Israel curbstomping hamas.

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            9 months ago

            @100_percent_a_bot That’s hilarious considering that Israel is the one that doesn’t recognize Palestine…while the Palestinians (as part of the Oslo Accords) recognized Israel

            And no, they would have had a “provisional” state… whatever the fuck that is. Stop lying.

            As for the rest, literally irrelevant to Israel’s military Occupation of them. That’s Israel’s fault and the own the sole blame for their own actions.

            Are you an Israeli?

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              That’s usually how it goes. They’d have a provisional state that gets more and more jurisdiction and responsibilities over time, finally becoming a state at some point. That is unless they do unhinged psycho shit like instigating countless terrorist insurgencies and constant rocket attacks. No one should have to put up with any of this.

              That Gaza is still occupied is the fault of Palestineans doing unhinged psycho shit. Casting yourself as a victim doesn’t work if you’re a crybully and everyone can see your insane behavior.

              My nationality is not important to any of my beliefs on this but no, I’m not Isreali. I don’t even think they are flawless or anything, quite the contrary but there’s being a flawed democracy and being whatever the hell Gaza is supposed to be.

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                9 months ago

                @100_percent_a_bot There’s no such thing as a provisional state. Israel was never a provisional state That’s literally bullshit. That is typical israelially propaganda

                The Palestinians including Gaza because we’re also talking about the West Bank here too is occupied by the Israeli, no one else only them. The Palestinians are not Occupying the Israeli. You keep trying to skip over that part. But now we can add genocide to it too

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                  9 months ago

                  That’s absolutely not true, provisional states are very much real. There was a provisional German state after the collapse of the German Reich that existed from 45-49, before the creation of East- and West- Germany. There also was the British mandate for the area after the collapse of ottoman empire. So in a way there also was a provisional Israel.

                  The rest you write here is jibberish to me, but sure, the Isreali have been genociding Palestine for 70 years, more than doubling their numbers in the process. Seems like they are the least competent genocides in history.

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                9 months ago

                @100_percent_a_bot but I do like your use of the word " cry bully" as the Israeli or the biggest crybullies on the planet.

                They’re settlers attack innocent Palestinians, while they settle lands that aren’t even theirs and the Israeli military backs them up.

                At the end of this, the nation of Israel has to go the way Nazi Germany went

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                  9 months ago

                  Also at worst Israel is a regular old bully, beating everyone up who provides them with a reason. But Palestine is like that little skinny shitstain in the back of the class, launching spitballs at the biggest kid in class and tripping him after school which makes him go absolutely ballistic.

                  Personally I have a hard time being sympathetic with these people, considering they still support hamas despite of the suffering they brought to the Gaza strip. There will probably have to be large deradicalization programs for them once this is over. So yeah, as we speak Palestine is literally going the way nazi Germany went, being bombed into submissions and having their will to fight broken.