The 0.18 version of Lemmy was announced. This will solve many issues.
But we can’t upgrade yet because the captcha was removed, and captcha relied on Websockets, which are removed in 0.18 so despite the devs agreeing on my request to add captcha back, this will not be until 0.18.1. Without captcha we will be overrun by bots.
Hopefully this 0.18.1 will be released soon, because another issue is that the newest version of the Jerboa app won’t work with servers older than 0.18. So if you’re on Lemmy.world, please (temporarily) use another app or the web version.
I know these are early-adopter pain points, but I think if Lemmy is really gonna take off, the devs need to get serious about backward compatibility and ensuring backend upgrades don’t completely break major instances/clients. IMO switching from websocket to HTTP should have been treated as a breaking change with a new major version release and a more controlled rollout period for this exact reason.
Ok so guys, I appreciate the devs of Jerboa for doing what they do, but I am absolutely switching to another app immediately when something else decent shows up.
Thunder on Android is the best of all the ones I’ve tried, Adaptive Icon and Material You support so feels very modern. It’s a newer app but has a nice clean layout and development is happening fast.
Yep, I’ll be sticking to Jerboa until Infinity for Lemmy is a thing.
Sync for Lemmy can’t come quick enough
How does it compare to wefwef.app ? I’ve been using it a couple of days and it’s been pretty sweet so far. Found it on r/apolloapp.
I just checked this out. Until a better native app is created, I feel like this is by far the best choice for using the site on mobile. Good find 👍
I’m trying them all. As of today, Connect for Lemmy seems to be working the best
Connect for Lemmy is the best thus far.
I have yet to find another app that is consistently reliable and feature rich. Should we just sign up for a different instance until lemmy.world is upgraded?
You might try Liftoff or Thunder. I am replying this from Thunder and its working fine for me. You can find both of these apps on f-droid.
I think Connect is the best one currently. A bunch of them are improving really fast though so that may change.
So that’s why Jerboa crashes as soon as I log in.
Moved to Connect, happy with that.
What is Connect?
Is it not open source? I can’t find the source code anywhere.
It’s closed source. But the dev said that maybe in the future it can be open sourced.
The Dev’s stubbornness about captchas is a little baffling. Yes, they’re not 100% foolproof but they help.
It’s like arguing that we shouldn’t have locks on or our doors because a skilled lock picker can get past them.
The devs aren’t pushing back against captchas, but they’re desperately trying to get 0.18 out to resolve a ton of issues. Captchas need to be redone in the code level and no one has done it yet.
someone has done it, there’s a PR here: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3289
That looks promising, hopefully we’ll have an 0.18.1 release later next week
They agreed to add them back. You can read their comments in OPs link
That only happened recently, though. For weeks they were replying to instance admins requests to reinstate captchas with things like “bots have beaten captchas, so they’re useless.”
My very first post on Lemmy was a (admittedly out-of-date) rant about the devs stubbornness about the hardcoded bad words filter and their behavior in the relevant GitHub issues. And I had people jumping in the comments defending them, telling me that it was fixed years ago, they’re better now, surely that couldn’t possibly happen again.
I am Jack’s complete lack of surprise.
ETA: and yeah, I know about kbin, I’ve tried both, kinda waiting to see all the new Android native apps before completely moving over there. Seeing how all this shakes out.
Lemmy has a hardcoded profanity/vulgarity filter?
It had, but it was removed about two years ago in release 0.14.0 with the introduction of proper mod tools.
Thanks for keeping the bots out! I’m still successfully using Jerboa, btw.
you’re probably not using the latest version from the GitHub repo then
I am. It gives me the warning and crashes a lot, but it works a little.
It crashes far too much without 0.18 for me; resorted to using the web view.
Successfully using the latest Jerboa and posting here from a different instance :)
Probably because you’re already logged in from the previous version? On a clean install it won’t be able to login, it will literally tell you that the instance needs to be at 0.18.0.
Ahh. That’s really not good. In a time where we are expanding we have broken captcha resorting in instances protecting themselves from bots breaking the best Android app. Wonderful.
I’m and it works with lemmy.world, I still get the disclamer about Lemmy version, but still work regardless, what is it happening here?
Try logging out and then logging back in on lemmy.world
If that locks me out I won’t.
Captcha has been merged https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3289#issuecomment-1609087178 And 0.18.1 RC1 has been tagged https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/releases/tag/0.18.1-rc.1
Should’ve read this first. I was getting that instance outdated popup on jerboa app, thought a logout and re-login would resolve it. Now I can’t login, my mistake…
You can use this fork: https://lemmy.ml/post/1498929
Thanks
Jerboa just quit when I tried using it on Android - Pixel 5 w/Android 12. Wouldn’t open at all, so I quit on it. Trying out Summit now
Also have that problem. V0.0.34 crashes, and V0.0.35 doesn’t work with Lemmy.world, so I had to switch to Liftoff
Liftoff is awesome! So far, I really love that app
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Same issue. I switched to Connect for Lemmy which seems fine so far.
I just updated and it gave me an error on jerboa but it still seems to be working fine
Yep. Got the warning but works just fine.
ELI5?
there’s a couple of points here
- current website is version 0.17.4 (you can check this at the very bottom)
- version 0.18 is ready, but there’s no captcha yet (the thing where you have to identify objects on squares, or click a box that’ll turn into checkmark)
- without captcha, bot accounts (not real users) can register to the site too easily
- so we’re gonna wait for version 0.18.1, the one with captcha active.
- the Jerboa app, the android app for browsing Lemmy has also recently updated, and will only work for Lemmy version 0.18 up, thus it’s advised to use another app or just the web for now
note : the site version 0.18 is already out for the main Lemmy instance, which is lemmy.ml, but lemmy.world (where we are now) is gonna wait for version 0.18.1
I’m using Jerboa and everything seems to be working fine. Edit: Jerboa started playing up mainly crashing on opening it. Binned it off and now using Connect
I first thought my Jerboa was fine (despite the popup warning about version), since I could browse a bit without it obviously exploding. But no, it crashes regularly now (closes, no warning or messages).
I don’t understand why a Lemmy update would be considered for release that removes security features like captcha support. (Especially during this time of high rates of signups, and well known bot wave in some instances.)
Combined with Jerboa update that needs the Lemmy update, and popularity of instances that need captcha, it’s unfortunately causing a mess for many users.
Edit: After a few more hours of use, I must say it’s worse than I thought. Jerboa crashes every time within a few minutes, while simply scrolling or voting. Hopefully Lemmy gets captcha re-implemented very soon, and lessons are learned.
yeah i agree. This setup is really dumb. I just joined and this took way too much fiddling already for new ‘simple’ reddit users. Helps i’m used to linux.
@ruud@lemmy.world: 0.18.1-rc1 is out with captchas: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/releases/tag/0.18.1-rc.1
