I was told about this band today and a coworker showed me a youtube video of what they’re like.
My question is not a joke, but the existence of this band may be?
Help me understand? Wtf this is? Is this an attempt to troll the world that people have accepted as “rock music” so they kept going?
Is this “real music” and I’m the idiot?
It feels like elevator music for people in the “Beavis and Butthead” universe.
WTF IS HAPPENING?! (And no I’m not just talking about their absolutely ludicrous appearance, I’m talking about the whole package. The music sounds like LSD fueled song intros looped together without ever reaching a chorus, ever.
Not sure there’s much to understand.
They are two genuine guys from the extended Montreal punk scene making super diy rock. They like micro tonal stuff, so they make micro tonal rock. They have silly outfits because it’s fun to make your friends laugh and be goofy, and also because it protects privacy and creates a cohesive world.
The centralised internet is stupid so algorithms designed for virality and capturing attention picked up on them through some kind of fluke and now they are known throughout the world.
They are great and talented, but there’s no reason more people should know of them more than of Lipona, New Junk City, Catbite, Oh The Humanity! or any of the myriad other great punk and adjacent bands out there.
They have silly outfits because it’s fun to make your friends laugh and be goofy, and also because it protects privacy and creates a cohesive world.
The story I heard behind the costumes is that they used to play at a venue that only let a band perform once per day. They put on the outfits to appear as a different band and get paid for an extra set.
You’re right, I read that too and had forgotten it.
there’s no reason more people should know of them than of Lipona, New Junk City, Catbite or Oh The Humanity!
The noses and dots give them the edge
That’s true, Catbite look cool but they don’t have the shlong noses.
So, there are good explanations as to why they are popular, and not a joke even slightly.
What AdP have done is combined:
- Pop rock using looping tech and really tight percussion / guitar work
- Some very technical playing, especially using microtonal instruments with a 24 tone scale
- A dada-esque aesthetic to make themselves standout
- Created a lore that allows them to preserve some privacy
So, no, the music is not a joke. It’s real music, made by musicians that have been performing together since they were ~13 years old (over a decade at this point). If you listened with a critical ear you might realize that many of their pieces are actually satirizing the clichés of pop-rock music. The aesthetic is made to be fun and get attention.
I’ve written a bit more about them here: The Summer of Angine de Poitrine.
Oh, and FYI—if this is a joke, it’s one of the most successful jokes in nearly 20 years. They smashed the attendance record set by Stevie Wonder in 2009 for the Montreal Jazz Festival.
A lot of Lemmings have already tried to explain the appeal of AdP. I’m not going to pile on. Partly because I don’t want to beat a dead horse. And partly because I don’t “get it” either. Or more specifically, I couldn’t get lost in the music the way I wanted to. And I gave it an honest shot. But here’s the thing. This isn’t the first time that’s happened to me. It actually happens to me quite a lot.
As a weekend hobby, I like to get high and just listen. An album, a live set, whatever I can find. Any genre, any era. And why some people connect to music that does nothing for me, and vice reversa, is something I’ve chewed on for years. It’s a massive topic and I won’t pretend to have the full answer. But there’s a line of research worth mentioning here. Especially given your feeling that this is all a giant joke and everyone’s trolling you.
To oversimplify, we don’t listen with fresh ears. We learn what music “sounds like” over our whole lives. There’s a study on this. Six-month-old babies could pick apart complex Balkan rhythms just fine. By twelve months, that ability had already narrowed to the rhythms they grew up around. Adults raised on Balkan music keep both. The rest of us lose the ear for it. And this just keeps going, every new thing we hear, we hear through all those accumulated biases. Eventually you hit music so far removed from your frame of reference that it barely registers as music at all. For you, that day came. And that’s okay.
But if you want to break down that wall, you can get closer. When I find music challenging, I look to its influences. Branches of the tree nearer my own roots. Then I work my way back from there. The catch is you can’t go in trying to prove it’s bad. For lack of a better phrase, you have to listen with sincerity.
Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED talk. Hope you keep giving new music a chance.
I find that I have to watch them play it, rather than just listen to it. their technical ability to manage the loops live so seamlessly is what really does it for me.
Oh, totally agree with that. I watched their performance on KEXP, and was blown away by the skill and craftsmanship they showed.
Woah, that’s so interesting! Thanks for sharing!
All art is subjective. But there are certain types of art that are less accessible–you either need to have an uncommon taste, or you need to have a deep knowledge of the type of art to appreciate it.
I felt the same way when I first heard jazz bop. Just sounded like noise. Then I played in a jazz band for three years, and by the end of that time, I had a much stronger appreciation for that music. Not because the music was different, but because I could hear more in it than I could years before.
Angine de Poitrine is kinda similar. Some people love it right away, but most of us hear it and it sounds like random noise. But there’s a reason they’ve become popular, and once you get into it a bit more, you can hear some of the cool stuff they do.
For the record, I don’t listen to AdP much, but I’ve been doing music long enough to have an ear to appreciate them.
If you want more info, Charles Cornell does a great breakdown of their music and suggests why people like them so much. Worth a watch.
Dude it’s the jams and it’s moves and it’s fun.
I think you just don’t get it. You can try to enjoy this type of music or not, there’s nobody forcing you to.
Like black coffee, it’s an acquired taste.
I quite enjoy music that does not fit the traditional western structure, think hard bop, so not having a predicable chorus is a positive thing as far as I’m concerned.
There’s nothing wrong with sticking to what you like but the attitude I’m reading in the comments is one of trying to defend a point. That mindset will not expand your taste horizons. I’m really not sure why this is a post if that’s the attitude you’re taking.
I sure don’t get it.
What is hard bop?
Before you attempt to grok or diss AdP, perhaps get through the following:
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Pink Floyd’s ‘Ummagumma’ — until you like it
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Universal Totem Orchestra’s ‘Rituale Alieno’
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Zeni Geva’s ‘10,000 Light Years’
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Sasha Garcia’s ‘The Cereal Mouse’ (cover of Spastic Ink)
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Blotted Science’s ‘Cretaceous Chasm’
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Ruins’s ‘Pallaschtom’
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Zu’s ‘Carboniferous’
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Sasha Garcia — ‘Mutilate the Stillborn’ (cover of Necrophagist)
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UneXpect’s ‘In a Flesh Aquarium’
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Anatoly Nikulin’s ‘Russian Music’
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Lightning Bolt’s ‘Dead Cowboy @ TAICOCLUB’14’
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Black Pus’s ‘Hear No Evil’
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Beskultura’s ‘Бес Культ Ура’
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Lanzallamas’s ‘Arde la Cúspide EP’
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Mamaleek’s ‘Come and See’
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Melt Banana’s ‘8 short songs (live at Koloni, 10 år)’ and ‘The Hive’
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Liquidarlo Celuloide’s ‘Vértigo Magnético’
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The Armed’s ‘Spreading Joy’
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the VAPE’s ‘recording a song for a music label Korobushka records’
One of the arguments I made in my blog post is that there is a very long history of alternate tunings and microtonality in music. Another composer to get into his Harry Partch, who came up with at 43 tone scale in the 1950s, and had to build his own instruments for an ensemble to perform his compositions.
I’m surprised you didn’t include King Gizzard in your list – especially Flying Microtonal Banana.
A funny thing that I forgot to mention in a reply to @Reygle@lemmy.world, is that I actually don’t know shit about the traditional Western notes, and thus feel just fine and dandy in any microtonal setup — which is probably why I find AdP’s tunes pretty curious, but KGatLW rather in the vein or traditional prog-rock.
Partch might give you that same curiosity. Here’s an example: Sonata Dementia (1950) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZybJAEPu18
Ler me add these gems here
Perfume azul do sol
Som imaginário - matança do porco
Arrigo Barnabé - Clara crocodilo
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nZRyJVLovx9vwe2z6XrX53jIid2VmLnKM
You have fantastic music taste, just saying
Oh yeah, I know. 😎
WOW. I hate all of it. Thank you.
What kind of music do you like?
Sleep token and President are some of my favorites right now
Interesting. My favourite two bands right now are Sleep Token and AdP. I’m kind of surprised you’re not picking up what AdP is putting down, given that Sleep Token is also really complex.
Yeah, that is interesting.
Given that Sleep Token is very vocals-driven, maybe that’s what you’re missing in AdP. Vessel is a fantastic singer (one of the best in the game right now), but I’d say that he’s no better a guitar/bass player than Khn. As far as drums go, ii is one of the greatest rock drummers of all time, but Klek is really solid and fits his role in AdP perfectly. Sleep Token is an amazing project, but even those guys might not appeal to you in a different format (since you like heavy music). Have you checked out any Blacklit Canopy? Did Vessel’s previous life as a coffeeshop folk singer appeal to you at all, or do you need the volume turned up to get what he’s doing? Inversely, have you checked out any La Poêsse? Maybe AdP just isn’t hard enough for you, and their previous project would appeal to you more.
Also…do you like electronic music? I’d say that AdP are kind of a mash-up between rock and techno (my call is that they’re a mix of Buckethead and Daft Punk, haha) and, if you don’t like techno, you might just not appreciate the way they arrange their songs.
I can’t “get” Blacklit Canopy or La Poesse either it seems. I don’t have the ears to compare any of these thing to President, Sleep Token, or even more ‘punk’ sounding grungy bands like Hot Water Music which I also like. Thanks for the effort/time though.
I listened through President’s EP, and it’s run-of-the-mill metalcore with the standard whiny voice. Even that godforsaken genre has better stuff, like Job for a Cowboy or some of Disembodied Tyrant’s tunes.
I’ll agree to disagree on that, but you do you
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The music sounds like LSD fueled song intros looped together without ever reaching a chorus
See, you do get it. There’s some great dirty riffs and microtonal scales from the band you can’t not look at. Also, not everything needs a chorus.
They make weird abstract music and wear costumes. I don’t there’s anything to get, but for sure it’s not a joke or an ironic internet thing. It’s just a subgenre that has been pretty popular in local scenes for more than a decade, but had evaded the attention of the general public until now.
Musicians tend to like it because it’s actually very technical. It may sound repetitive if you gloss over the details but it’s packed with trick-shots and complications, which are necessary because of the weird setup they have. It’s a whole brainy thing about finding your way out of self-imposed constraints.
I just listened to them for the first time and honestly some of just sounds like prog rock. In a good way.
Agreed, they’re really not that weird. Literally just a drum/guitar duo. I wonder how OP would react to actual WTF music like Merzbow.
It’s cool that you’re discovering them, you’re gonna have a fun time.
They’re friends of friends and as I understand it this band started out as a joke they did for a show and it was so fun they kept doing it. They have another band that I’m a fan of and you can clearly hear the guitarist’s style in that one too. This is just their Funky Microtonal Alien Math Rock Disco band where they speak gibberish, wear funny costumes and make songs vaguely about hotdogs.
based on your comments here. I actually just don’t think you like music. At least, I don’t think you’re open to new and different genres, and different styles of music. Microtonal is pretty ‘strange’ for lack of a better term. And that’s totally fine.
I’m curious what kind of music you do like?Actually, reading more comments, you’re a hateful troll who genuinely doesn’t appreciate music as an art form.So, in a time where there’s AI generated artwork from drawings, paintings, photos, videos, literature, and even music, we need this kind of absurd weird art because it clearly distinguishes itself as purely human-made.
Also, the technicality behind their music is insane. Have you ever heard of math rock? Essentially, music is built on time signatures or bar which are normally in times of 4, maybe 3 (the 4/4, 3/4 we see on a music sheet next to the clef symbol.) Sometimes the bar will be higher and go up to 16/8 for blues or rock n roll for example.
But Angine de Poitrine use all kinds of fucked up bars and switch several times mid-tune! Using math, essentially, they can switch from having 9 beats, then double to 18, then one third back to 6, then double back up to 12 then divide back into 4 or whatever. That’s why it’s sometimes hard to follow the beat. You gotta count the number of beats in one bar.
Add to that the microtonal guitar and bass where they add frets for notes between notes, and you now have several new notes that don’t follow the standard octaves.
With the silly costumes and characters on top, which is fun because they don’t take themselves seriously, which makes it very lighthearted in these very serious times, it really helps disconnect from the harsh reality.
So it’s a combination of all that.
Well, I for one disagree with your assessment, but I SINCERELY thank you for posting it. I have a new thing to enjoy. This band is awesome!
Some people, myself included, find diatonic music in 4/4 predictable and boring. This is the sort of music that appeals to people who know a lot about music and music theory, precisely because it skirts the edges of the “rules” and subverts expectations while having a sort of internal consistency.
I’ll compare it to stand-up comedy. I’m a huge fan of Norm Macdonald, but I know plenty of people who don’t think he’s funny because of his deadpan delivery and rambling shaggy dog setups. But that’s precisely what makes him so funny and why other comedians consider him a genius. He subverts the “rules” of comedy to create something refreshing in a landscape of stuff that all feels the same. It’s easy to understand the appeal when you’re well versed in the “rules”, but it just seems chaotic when you aren’t.
AdP is like that. The weird time signatures, microtonality, and deviation from the chorus-verse structure make them very interesting to people who understand rhythm, scales, and structure. If you don’t have a solid understanding of those things, you aren’t going to understand what they’re doing or why they’re doing it, any more than you’ll understand why Norm Macdonald tells a rambling 10 minute story that culminates in a corny pun unless you understand the principles of comedy.
I understand their music very well. But I just don’t like it.
That’s also perfectly valid. Personal taste is always a component of art; expert musicians aren’t all jazz fans.
I listened to them recently and unfortunately for me a) life is too short or b) there’s too much music to discover (choose one) to keep listening to something that doesn’t win me over on first try. That’s my life long experiment, so I don’t argue about this selective process.












