• thesmokingman@programming.dev
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    8 months ago

    You have yet to address any of the examples I’ve given you, including the one that’s very legal. Squatter’s rights are literally forcing someone to provide a service without paying for that service. You keep trying to move the goalposts; there just isn’t a way for you to not be wrong here.

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      8 months ago

      Squatters rights just means that they need to be evicted, rather than the usual recourse for run-of-the-mill trespassers. The service still stops, there are just some legal provisions around how the service stops.

      You might be referring to “adverse possession”, which realistically only happens in cases of abandonment of a property… Or an extremely generous landlord who decided to not evict a squatter for a minimum of 5 years.

      If you think that this generally satisfies your position that, generally speaking, you don’t have to pay your bills and you can just keep getting stuff, then I concede. Not because I think you’re right, but because we’re so incredibly far apart on the issue of “are things secretly free?” That I don’t realistically think we can close the gap.

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        8 months ago

        If we set aside that specific law, which I will grant you is widely different across many jurisdictions (where I live it’s much less than five years, sorry bud), you still have all the other things both legal and extralegal that prove you wrong. The US itself is based on not honoring legal agreements which is the crux of your argument. If you want to talk precedence somewhere else, you still have the extralegal shit which still gets you things for free even if it’s not legal. We also haven’t even mentioned the famous monkey wrench argument.

        With the right circumstances, things are secretly free. Your naïveté or willful ignorance or both has ceased being interesting because your only response has been “go talk to the sovcits you’re not entitled to things.”