• stermy4u@lemmy.worldOP
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    9 days ago

    I keep hearing the term looksmaxer and every time it’s a person that looks like they were hit with a snow shovel repeatedly.

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    9 days ago

    So either he always had some mental health issues, or the lack of nutrition he did to keep the body he had lead himself to make very bad decisions because his brain couldnt process correctly anymore.

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      I’ve never read anything about the looksmaxxing subculture that made me think it was anything other than people with severe body dysmorphia egging each other on. The least ethical 60s psychological experiment conceived by the most coked up 60s psychologist couldn’t have come up with a more fucked up method of seeing how far people will go.

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      From what I heard he had a psychosis after an Ayahuasca ritual, then used gold from jewelry which might contain lead and other nasty stuff for consumption and injection and also used SSRIs before he died, so possibility serotonin syndrome.

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        Sounds like they were mentally ill beforehand, ayahuasca didn’t do that

        And then he was found at the bottom of a lake, which would be unusual for serotonin syndrome

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              I’m aware of the meaning. I’m not sure what your point is though.

              From an outside perspective it’s this:

              • Person acting normal before Ayahuasca (latent psychosis)
              • Insane behavior after Ayahuasca (acute psychosis)

              I’m pretty sure that none of the Ayahuasca retreats test for latent psychosis or if there is even a reliable way to do that.

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                Ayahuasca retreats are a scam to relieve drug tourists of their money. I prefer my psychedelic experiences not to start with an hour of projectile vomiting into a bucket, but some people think they have to “earn” a trip by putting themselves through an ordeal. The reality is that botanicals can be dirty drugs with a high body load just like synthetics can be. Also MAOIs can be unpredictable in the magnitude of their effect, and can prolong trips much longer than you bargained for, based on small details of your body chemistry and recent diet.

                As for the “latent” comment: using psychedelics can be a stress test, and (as they say of investments) past performance does not guarantee future results. I’ve had entirely positive experiences with psychedelics, but also know that they’re powerful substances that should be used sparingly. People who advocate “heroic doses” are doing so with no concern over the casualty rate. It will go bad for some people, you can’t always predict who, but the odds worsen with dosage and frequency of use. So to me, the “latent” pseudo-explanation is a bit too much like “and if it breaks, it needed replacing anyway.” Too self-fulfilling to be credible.

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                  I agree with you. I’ve personally had mixed experiences and the bad ones where so bad that I currently do not plan to ever try it again.

                  Regarding the term latent psychosis I agree too. I brought it up because it’s basically what the side effects would say if they were labeled. However it can also be used as a defense like you said “it would’ve been triggered anyways sooner or later”. That’s problematic since you can’t really test that beforehand. So either way it’s a gamble with your mental health. For many first time users their mental health is already compromised and they experiment with psychedelics to improve it. That was my intent. My multiple experiences with psychedelics definitely had effects on my mental health but not all of them where positive. Other first time users might just be curious, spiritually inclined or expect a recreational high.

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        9 days ago

        Ahh ok, so drugs it is. I thought the cause of death was due to the gold injection, im actually shocked he survived that now.

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      I think the copious amounts of drugs he was doing probably had a lot to do with it. Oh and the injecting gold part.

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    Looksmaxxing is just a new name for body dysmorphia. The same shit that makes people puke their guts out after eating, or getting plastic surgery done over and over until they look like freaks.

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            Shitmaxxing is the latest fad. Influencers are eating 6 meals a day rather than the regular 3. The rules also include in those meals at least 2 cans of beans, 20 grams of soluble fibre, and a kg of beef.

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      And that’s just the physical symptoms of social media. The mental damage from using it is much higher.

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    “Up until his passing, he was discovering that he had achieved some superhuman abilities, and it’s no joke; he actually did achieve some superhuman abilities,” he said. “He had tapped into a level of consciousness that most people never will.”

    Another looksmaxxing influencer, Androgenic, offered additional claims during a livestream, saying Murphy became increasingly focused on gold.

    “He started to get this fixation on gold. He started to believe that gold was some gatekept mineral by the higher-ups that basically gives you special powers if you ingest it,” he said. According to Androgenic, Murphy later began injecting gold into his body.

    Just so we are all clear, the trans community super duper does not claim him. Wish the political right would focus more on this sort of self abuse instead of the verified science supporting medical transition.

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      The only thing trans about this now ex-person is how transparently stupid he was (and, very likely, sadly in need of mental health help).

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      It’s always the second half of the year that the nominations come in and then by October it’s like the where we’re you at the beginning of the year people.

      My favorite darwin is the guy who went alcohooool alcohooooool and drank a bottle of rubbing alcohol.

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    Did this toolbag think he was an Allomancer or Mistborn? Brandon Sanderson’s works are too dangerous! BAN SANDERSON NOVELS!

    /s just in case…

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      A Feruchemist more likely? Guess the metalmind was empty, or he taped it too much to fast.

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    From the article it sounds like he has a friend who genuinely believes that he was gaining superhuman powers too. So… clocks ticking on that guy now.

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      “Up until his passing, he was discovering that he had achieved some superhuman abilities, and it’s no joke; he actually did achieve some superhuman abilities,” he said.

      “He had tapped into a level of consciousness that most people never will.”

      right, looksmaxxing just screams elevated consciousness - he must have been positively Buddha-like in his detachment from shallow, earthly concerns 🤦

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    8 days ago

    We’re in the “The Beautiful Ones” part of the collapse of our little mouse utopia.

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    His artificial hairline looks worse than if he were bald. And wtf is going on with his jaw?

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      “Looksmaxxing has drawn criticism because some influencers promote dangerous techniques to change their appearance, including striking or damaging their jawbones and other risky practices.”-from the article.

      The looksmaxxing guys have a thing they call bonesmashing where they will hit their jaws with hammers or other implements in order to break it a little. This is done so they can reshape it as it heals. This is a repeated process. The jaw is broken and reshaped continually until they look a little more like the cartoonish over exagerated jawline of the chads from those chad memes. No I’m not kidding and no this is not done with any kind of medical supervision.

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    I will assume he was taking advice from ChatGPT. That is just the kind of dumb shit ChatGPT tries to convince people to do.

    LOL at all the downvotes, as if ChatGPT doesn’t tell people to do stupid shit.

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        LLMs are out there literally egging people on.

        Sure, we had fires before we started refining and making accelerants, but that doesn’t mean that we should just let people throw accelerants on fires willy nilly.

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          “People died in car accidents before we started putting MurderSpikes™ on the front of our cars, and they will continue to die in car accidents after we stop putting MurderSpikes™ on the front of our cars.”

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        No, there are by now several research papers showing that sycophantic chatbots are affecting regular people just as much as mentally unstable people.

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          Source? I googled web searched your claim, and this paper, “Sycophantic Chatbots Cause Delusional Spiraling, Even in Ideal Bayesians”, was the top result. It does conclude, as expressed in the Abstract:

          We then show that in this model, even an idealized Bayes-rational user is vulnerable to delusional spiraling, and that sycophancy plays a causal role. Furthermore, this effect persists in the face of two candidate mitigations: preventing chatbots from hallucinating false claims, and informing users of the possibility of model sycophancy.

          So, while I agree with your gist of ‘chatbots are bad for people’, I think you may have overstated your claim: That even ideally rational ‘people’ can get led into AI psychosis by sycophantic chatbots is not the same as bots “affecting regular people just as much as mentally unstable people”, because mentally unstable people might be more vulnerable to this type of reality-warping influence. “No-one is safe” is different from “We all suffer equally”.

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    People are so worried about women and body dysmorphia, but we should remember that men need help with dysmorphia too.

    I didn’t know who this guy was before he died, but I read an article about things he was doing and saying. He was not okay. It seems like he was suffering from some kind of paranoia as much as dysmorphia.

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      It’s not a competition. But looking at the numbers it’s justified to focus a little more on women for the time being.

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        But also focusing on it for women makes it a “women’s problem” and it makes it harder for men to get help.

        Look at sexual assault and rape. It happens to men too. Maybe less frequently but more often than anyone truly knows because it’s under reported.