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    Somewhat reasonable for being at a low tech level, I guess.

    But defensively, it’s got major issues:

    1. Those long supply lines of explosive ammo are extremely vulnerable. If any enemies hit them with flaming projectiles, the entire conveyor belt will catch on fire and explode, damaging every structure near it. And you don’t have nearly enough walls protecting them from such projectiles. It will probably happen faster than the Wave turrets can put out the fire. (Honestly, I don’t think using such ammo is even worth it. Better to use non-flammable ammo, even if it doesn’t cause quite as much damage to enemies. In this location, with this tech level, I’d probably be using graphite for ammo.)

    2. Same thing with those massive battery farms. If one battery is destroyed, it creates electrical damage in the nearby area, which can destroy other batteries, setting off a massive chain reaction that destroys the entire battery bank and everything nearby. Your battery banks should be kept farther away from the front lines, where they’ll be more safe.

    3. With so much electrically powered infrastructure near your front lines, you should probably invest in some redundant power connections (they’ll have to be connected manually). This can help keep things running if one connection is hit, allowing any resulting power outages to be smaller and less widespread.

    Other than that … you’ve got coal and water here – why aren’t you using steam power instead of solar? That would produce more power for cheaper, and it would take up a lot less space. Have you not unlocked the steam generator yet?

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      thanks for the notes. i hadn’t known that conveyor belts with pyratite are flammable. makes sense, kinda. also i’ve seen battery fires before but didn’t connect the dots that batteries are specially flammable.

      the reason why i chose pyratite is because i like the area damage it does. idk what else gives area damage at my tech level.


      coal power is just not an option for me. there’s not enough fossil fuels on the map to pull it off. i need the coal to produce ammunition, silicon and graphite. if i burn it, i won’t have enough as a material input.

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        but didn’t connect the dots that batteries are specially flammable

        Batteries are even worse, actually. They don’t even have to be destroyed by fire in order to start a chain reaction like the conveyor belts – a battery destroyed by anything will damage nearby structures.

        the reason why i chose pyratite is because i like the area damage it does. idk what else gives area damage at my tech level.

        It is pretty effective … but also introduces new vulnerabilities, and it’s pretty complex/expensive to produce. Honestly, on my most recent playthrough, I didn’t bother with it. Played through the entire game without ever once producing it.

        coal power is just not an option for me. there’s not enough fossil fuels on the map to pull it off. i need the coal to produce ammunition, silicon and graphite. if i burn it, i won’t have enough as a material input.

        Hm… Is there no way to mine it faster or more efficiently?

        Oh well. Once you unlock the Cultivator, you can build power plants that run on nothing but water, and once I had that available, it’s pretty much all I used. Very convenient, except for the few maps that just don’t have any available water.

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        coal power is just not an option for me. there’s not enough fossil fuels on the map to pull it off. i need the coal to produce ammunition, silicon and graphite. if i burn it, i won’t have enough as a material input.

        Looking back on it, I can see the issue now.

        It’s because you’re using higher tier drills all over the place, and those drills need power. If you were using lower-tier drills that don’t require power in most locations, the base as a whole would need a lot less power, and then a small amount of steam power would be more than enough.

        Unless you’re on a map with ample power generation available, you should only use the higher-tier drills when they’re really necessary. Even in the late game when you’ve got everything unlocked, the Teir 2 drills that don’t require input power should usually be your default choice. Only use the bigger, power-hungry drills for materials that require them, or when you really need to boost the production rate of a small resource patch. Most of the time, it’s better to build a lot of small drills instead of a few big ones. (Though, sometimes, if you’ve already got more than enough electrical power, the bigger drills can be useful just for convenience – they’re quicker and easier to cover an area with.)

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          It’s because you’re using higher tier drills all over the place, and those drills need power. If you were using lower-tier drills that don’t require power in most locations, the base as a whole would need a lot less power, and then a small amount of steam power would be more than enough.

          so this is another map now, but look at this setup:

          i’ve got all the high-energy drills, and i’m powering them by pyratite steam turbines.

          i’m planning to set up a pyratite factory right next to it, which i’m currently doing. so in the end it’s producing more energy than it consumes.

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            Yeah, certainly possible to do … but exclusively using these high-tier drills is making your power requirements much higher than they need to be.

            In the setup pictured above, the only thing besides the drills that’s using power is your silicon factory – power usage would be tiny with lower-tier drills.

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              in case you want to know how this continued …

              (it produces way more power than it consumes)