Maryland House Democrats introduced a controversial gun safety bill requiring gun owners to forfeit their ability to wear or carry without firearm liability insurance.

Introduced by Del. Terri Hill, D-Howard County, the legislation would prohibit the “wear or carry” of a gun anywhere in the state unless the individual has obtained a liability insurance policy of at least $300,000.

"A person may not wear or carry a firearm unless the person has obtained and it covered by liability insurance issued by an insurer authorized to do business in the State under the Insurance Article to cover claims for property damage, bodily injury, or death arising from an accident resulting from the person’s use or storage of a firearm or up to $300,000 for damages arising from the same incident, in addition to interest and costs,” the proposed Maryland legislation reads.

  • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    64
    arrow-down
    11
    ·
    10 months ago

    Never understood why you have to have insurance to operate vehicles, but not have insurance for weapons, or dogs for that matter.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      53
      arrow-down
      20
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      Because owning of weapons is a constitutional right with very limited means to restrict your rights too.

      owning/operating a vehicle is simply a privilege that is easily revoked for any number of reasons, and can have many barriers between you and having it.

      Because the constitution was written 200 years ago, and is not fit for the modern day.

        • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          33
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          10 months ago

          In a common sense society that doesnt worship a single phrase from a 200 year old document, yes.

        • Death_Equity@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          17
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          10 months ago

          “Well regulated” does not mean now what it meant back then. In the context of the constitutional times “regulated” meant trained, supplied, and such shape ready to fight instead of legislated or controlled by the government.

            • GooseFinger@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              9
              ·
              10 months ago

              Depending on which modern definition of “militia” you choose, the National Guard either is one or isn’t one.

              But remember that the Bill of Rights serves to restrict the government from passing laws that infringe on certain rights - so it doesn’t grant you and I rights, it instead prevents the government from impeding on some the Founding Fathers felt The People (white dudes) had. It’d be ass backwards to argue that the government allows us freedom of expression, for example. That’s a natural right.

              Building on that, stating that the 2nd Amendment only applies to the National Guard is a shortened way of saying “the government may not infringe on the People’s right to have a government sanctioned and controlled branch of the federal Armed Forces.” Anyone with a cursory understanding of the American Revolution will know that this is not at all what the Founding Fathers intended the 2A to do.

              • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                10 months ago

                Hello, I would just like to take a moment to say that while yes, at the time “the people” were only considered to be white men (and in some cases white landowners specifically), the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and the 14th amendment to the Constitution in 1868, shortly after the end of the civil war (1865), this has not been the case. We fought a whole ass war over this and won. It took a while and people contested it, yes, but now black people have the same rights as everyone else, thankfully.

                This doesn’t mean racism is gone, but it does mean the words written in the bill of rights apply to POC regardless of what it meant at the time of the founding fathers. People often use their slave ownership as a means to discredit the words in the constitution and bill of rights, however I think it is more pertinent to discredit their practice of slave ownership and still like “all men are created equal” as a concept how it applies today.

                Not to say you were doing that, but you mentioned it so I figured it’s just a good place to say “I for one am happy the BOR now applies to everyone, as it should have back then. Took long e-damn-nuff.”

            • njm1314@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              8
              arrow-down
              6
              ·
              10 months ago

              We could also be realistic and admit that the point of the Second Amendment isn’t really valid anymore. The entire reason it existed was cuz Patrick Henry was scared of slave uprisings. That was its purpose.

        • kibiz0r@midwest.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          10 months ago

          It’s wild that “militia” is still considered relevant.

          Like, are we really still in a time when your town of 100 settlers might get attacked by Native Americans from the West and the British from the East?

          We gonna ring the bell and dole out muskets to every able-bodied man and boy in the village?

          Muskets — and ammo, and gunpowder — from the armory, since it was impractical and dangerous to keep that stuff at home?

          And lest we forget, these MFers passed ten amendments right off the bat. They thought we’d be ready to change this shit on the fly as the world evolved.

          People say they meant for amendments to be difficult to pass. But they really had no idea what the right calibration would be. It was a new thing! And they had just managed to get unanimous buy-in to start the thing. How hard could a 3/4 vote be?

      • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        10 months ago

        having a constitutional right to carry a weapon does not shield you from responsibility if you misuse that weapon in a way that violates my rights.

        • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          10 months ago

          Anything can be a weapon with enough effort and intent. Even your teeth. You want to start restricting everything that could possibly be a weapon?

          • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            7
            ·
            10 months ago

            I mean, as of right now if you use something as a weapon in a way that breaks the law you’re civilly liable. the restrictions are already there and always have been.

    • PopMyCop@iusearchlinux.fyi
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      10 months ago

      There are places that mandate dog insurance if the dog has been aggressive in the past. It’s at least a partial step in the right direction.

    • RaoulDook@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      10 months ago

      One is a right that shall not be infringed, and the other one is a state-regulated privilege (at least for operating the machine on public roads).

      Very simple to understand actually. You can’t put paywalls in front of rights, so this will be dunked right down the shitter if it passes, by the courts.

      • Fedizen@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        historically the courts have allowed many restrictions to the second amendment, its only modern revisionism thats reinterpreted “well regulated militia” as “literally anyone except felons” and “the right to bear arms” as “gun companies have a right to unrestricted gun sales”

        • Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          10 months ago

          as “literally anyone except felons”

          Oh don’t worry, they’re revising that part too. They want no limits whatsoever. They want felons to have guns.

      • Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        10 months ago

        The irony that the establishment considers the boom-boom death sticks as a “right” and the quite-literally-required car for modern society is a “privilege.”

        You should need to have insurance for your stupid yee-yee adventures to shoot the melanin-enriched customers at a Walmart…

        • RaoulDook@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          10 months ago

          What a childish response. Your opinion is garbage.

          Rights are something that nobody should ever agree to give up - especially a critical right that enables effective self-defense to the common citizen.

          Fortunately there’s nothing you can do about it, as that right at least is well protected by law and the courts.

          • Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            You can still buy, own, and shoot it. You just need to pay insurance (a very small one at that) to carry it around outside w/ you.

            The LW motto should be “your opinion is garbage” because there is clearly no sane argument to be made against this law

            • Jaysyn@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              10 months ago

              Google “poll tax” so you can inform yourself why OP is correct legally.

              • Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                10 months ago

                Zero idea what either of your points is tbh. 0 logical sense.

                You don’t have the right to take it into a Walmart and wave it around, full stop.

                A tiny lil baby insurance (esp for the police) is a good thing you dorks