• TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org
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    The Arab League nations also deny Palestinians asylum and barely did anything against the Gaza genocide. Why do you think they are even credible on Xinjiang when they often don’t give a shit about other muslims?

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      why do you think western sources on China are credible when they either openly support israel or are silent on it?

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        Why do you believe state owned media on a genocide perpetrated by the state? That’s like cops investigating themselves and finding no fault.

        Also “western media” is a huge spectrum of sources not limited to one source. When you check places like Grayzone or WSWS they are like “We asked China and they said no.”

        And my sources speak of a genocide in Gaza and apartheid by Israel and still don’t deny genocides perpetrated by states you buttkiss because you think they are socialist when they are in fact more capitalist than some western states.

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          I despise the revisionist CPC so dont do projection here but your hate for China comes from racism and their historical stance against west or pursuing sovereignty, it has nothing to do with who they prosecute. I do not trust most western media, I wont until they are explicitly anti zionist anti rich.

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            Sure make up shit when you lose an argument. I hate the Chinese government but love some aspects of Chinese culture such as Chinese opera and Fuzhounese cuisine. But for that I can go to Taiwan, Singapore or Penang.

            Calling people racist for not trusting government sources on the genocide the very same government is committing just makes you sound like a clown.

            Also “anti rich”. China has a capitalist class and billionaires. 🤡

            Only state that had a largely worker owned economy and less capitalism was Yugoslavia. Even Republican Catalonia was far closer to socialism than China has ever been.

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              government is committing

              there is no empirical evidence of this by any independent source.

              China has a capitalist class and billionaires. 🤡

              Why do you assume I support China?

              China was fairly socialist under mao, so was soviet union, cuba, HCM’s vietnam, etc.

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                People gave you articles that name Independent sources. You just are unwilling to accept any sources that arent in line with Chinese government sources.

                And it is pretty obvious that a genocide denier that shills for a corrupt state capitalist regime supports it. Like you are fooling no one. You arent as smart as you think you are.

                Also no matter how many red aethetics a state throws out, it doesn’t make them more socialist. A state owning mean of productions doesn’t mean anything when only party elites decide stuff. Workers had little to no say in most “real existing socialist states” and boards of executives were basically just replaced by party elites. Due to the mode of economy mirroring capitalism in many ways is why it is called state capitalism. Just because something calls itself socialist or democratic or for the people doesn’t mean it’s true and it is naive to believe that someone is socialist just because they say so. Socialism requires worker ownership of the MOP, not a representative or elite like a capitalist entrepreneur or a state representative. And when you posted about North Korea in another group, North Korea is just a straight up hereditary monarchy that calls itself socialist.