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I’m so glad they circled the chats in red so I know what to look at 🙏🏾
As provided in comments on copy #4 of the article, of - what, 7? - so far.
the bravery, nay, audacity, to rob all those rent seeking middlemen from jacking up your prices across the board…
huzzah
It also helps not having a corrupt government that says they won’t start a war and then starts multiple of them and spends all your taxes on weapons instead of healthcare.
Also not having idiot voter base
Who knew buying in bulk could save you money?
In Norway I actually frequently see small packs being cheaper per volume than big ones…🥲
I’ve had some interesting conversations with libertarians (the not stupid kind), and explaining or reminding people of pooling risk has worked some wonders. Like, yay guns, but also, yay universal healthcare!
We aren’t socialist; we are just better at accounting."
Hear that, liberals? That’s not socialism - difficult to understand?
They don’t even know what liberalism is, why would they know the difference between the government doing stuff and socialism?
Explaining liberalism to a liberal is like explaining water to a goldfish.
Now I don’t approve of torturing goldfish by taking away their water… but liberals deserve no such consideration.
Nordics being “happy” is fkin bullshit.
Ask any touring comedian about the general feel.
I especially hate the “Finland is the happiest country” bullshit.
Edit Yep it’s always the Finns downvoting this shit mut kaikki nii paskahousuja ettette oikeasti uskalla väitellä asiasta, säälittävää.
Edit literally all the downvotes are from angry Finns going “nuh-uh, this sort of thing just does not ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever happen in my dear lovely lintukoto Finland.” whilst not having the balls to actually reply
least miserable?
Lol no.
One of the most miserable.
The laws might be good, but in practice they don’t work like theyre supposed to and the people are fkin horrible and emotionally stunted. Just look at how many Finns will attack me over even having an opinion about Finland. Imagine being in Finland and trying to convey it
The laws might be good, but in practice they don’t work like theyre supposed to and the people are fkin horrible and emotionally stunted.
Horrible compared to what? Stunted compared to what? Have you seen America this year?
Your comment reads like survivorship bias, unfortunately, but you can fix that.
My mother was always doing that, world got a little shitter look at Africans they got it worse. This kind of doomer thinking make weak people.
Have you seen America this year?
Yes, I have. And the people have emotions.
Your comment reads like an ignorant asshole, but fortunately, you can improve upon that.
Is nature more dangerous than say, a temperature controlled sheltered environment? Yes, it is. But you’re still not allowed to keep a guinea pig alone in a controlled and sheltered environment like that, and it would fare better in the wild. Snakes when stressed inside boxes eat themselves. Caged birds pluck themselves bald. Huskies eat their paws.
Why the fuck do you think apes would be any different, and why do you pretend that not having homeless people must mean we’ve got it better than the US, especially if you don’t even speak the language?
In the US I would already have hundreds of thousands for these gross human rights infringements. But in Finland I can’t even get people to agree that there is literally no way for that to have happens legally.
So do you have an explanation as to how that bloody cells could’ve happened? No? In the US I’d have pro bono lawyers out the door angling for the case, because the case would pay hundreds of thousands and is such an open-and-shut case.
We have a lot of right wing incel types. Those are fucking miserable. Also religious nutjobs who are always “oppressed”. Normal people are doing fine.
except those who are not, but those are neatly swept under the rug in public discussion or outright demonized. Like those who dont have a job or those who need help with mental health. Its even accepted to use slurs to insult unemployed. “kelarotta”. Fact that this current government was voted in first place is also proof of how people here feel about things. Finland is happy country only for those who have it good.
Yeah that “doing fine” mentality is exactly the problem.
I shit you not Americans would not believe 90% of the interactions I have with my family, or the Finnish authorities.
So either it’s me being super biased because Turku is the asshole of Finland and I’ve mostly lived here all my life (and born in a rural village who’s people are arseholes compared to people from Turku) and the rest of Finland is fine.
Ooor it’s the whole damn country because everyone wants to delude themselves that we have no serious issues.
We do.
Several. There’s actually a high threat of authoritarianism, which is exacerbated by Finns not fucking believing it.
Go ahead and explain a legal way in which a person is kept in an isolation cell for three days while the lights are kept on (and there’s no mattress or blanket, they added those for the photo), he doesn’t eat or sleep, while the people keeping him locked up don’t give him his prescribed antipsychotic medication when he’s literally eating himself and drawing with blood on the walls.
For THREE (3) DAYS STRAIGHT.
Tell me of a legal way that happens. They tried suing me for vandalism of the cell, that’s the only reason I have the photo. I tried asking for the video through a lawyer. The lawyer said he’s never heard the cops be so uncomfortable, then they said they don’t have it (despite the law that mandates systems like that actually keep them) and then suddenly the charge for vandalism vanishes. I try suing the cops for abuse. Not even a reminder to them.
That’s the level of society we’re at.
So while we might be great with some social programs compared to other counties and while we might be good in IT and especially mobile networks, our society is archaic as fuck when it comes to certain aspects.
I would not have believed this before enduring it, so i don’t think you will either.
Damn dude you should probably see a professional and stay off the drink for a while.
Want to explain any reasonable way that can happen legally, even if I was the most despicable drunk of all times?
And I wasn’t drunk. I wasn’t in public. They came to my home. And when they did, I held onto my rights, even when I know Finland has nothing but assholes like you. And I actually influenced the very laws of our fucking nation.
https://korkeinoikeus.fi/fi/index/ennakkopaatokset/kko202345.html
What have your morals achieved?
I’m going to take a guess your the asdhole and not the whole country.
Uuh, yes, such a witty argument for why one would torture a person; they’re annoying.
Please, can you imagine a legal way that happened, or are you just as much of an asshole as everyone Finnish who’s ignoring this?
Corrupt power abusing cops aren’t exactly rare nor do they have any bearing on the country of finland as a whole. And using the US of all places as a positive example in that case is just ludicrous. I have no reason to doubt you were wronged, but that also doesn’t mean shit for how the average person feels about their life.
No, a single corrupt cop wouldn’t.
But the fact is it wasn’t a single cop. It was the entire department, because I spent several days in the cell, when they knew I was in there, LITERALLY eating myself bloody means that it was the whole department.
Or can you explain a legal way that happens, please? And how after the fact, I’m still having to argue people like you, pretty much saying “no biggie”.
I tried suing them. I tried taking it to the ombudsman. I tried everything. Not a single Finnish person is ready to actually talk about how this could have happened in our country. It’s such a massive and intentional fuckup that we need to see how it could have happened in the first place. To dismiss it like that is to invite authorianism.
Please explain to me how this doesn’t show that the entirety of the Finnish justice system is bullshit? How come no-one is willing to discuss literal torture. They didn’t even need to put me in jail in the first place. For the same exact crime, you usually get a fine. No reasoning. There was no warrant either, although they function differently in Finland one is still required, even when it’s usually a verbal one. The one I got was backdated by two months.
And you’re dismissing this instead of getting worried? THAT is the issue.
No, they get it. Being miserable when it’s optional is really satisfying.
No. We don’t.
Don’t you fucking try telling me you know better about my country.
I don’t pretend to know imperialism and tea and you isn’t pretend to know miserable cunts, okay?
That’s fantastic, just delightful. Thanks!
I do get the sarcasm, and quite right you are to use it. And I can’t really comment on it, since sarcasm is really your thing, so…
But my point is that you are right in that being miserable can be satisfying… when it’s an option.
It’s not an option here.
Not being a miserable cunt will get you labeled literally mentally ill.
I mean I am mentally ill. These days? You’d have to be crazy not to! I’m lucky though, I cope with humour and I’m really easily amused.
All my life my favourite people have been anhedonic, corrosive misfits. Like if Eeyore had a CBT kink, right? So when you come at me like that I’m genuinely charmed.
Sorry that it’s not an option though, I do have empathy for that. I don’t mean to make light of it, I just recognised the stereotype and connected a dot.
All my life my favourite people have been anhedonic, corrosive misfits
God I’m fucking tired of this “I know what you feel like” bs. No, I’m trying to tell you you don’t.
I’m telling you that whatever you consider anhedonic is still on a different magnitude of indifference. And I’m also telling you I know I won’t be able to convey it, unless you learn fluent Finnish. My therapist is English, he has fluent Finnish, and he does get what I’m talking about.
But just to give a clue.
Imagine that you get tortured for three days. Then you call your mom afterwards as soon as you can, because ofc you do, who wouldn’t cry for their mommy after three days of torture.
Then your mom goes, “well, perhaps you had it coming?”
Now list all the implications of that sentence. Imagine what it’d do to your belief in your mom and your society in general. But you genuinely won’t be able to imagine that. But I have here a document from the Finnish police who investigated themselves and found no fault in anything they did. Quelle surprise.
Not a hypothetical, btw. Then imagine trying to find a single person who shares your language to be able to even talk about this. Not someone who’s on my side. No. Just someone even willing to argue it. They don’t exist. I show Finns this and they pretend it doesn’t exist.
That’s just the epitome of it all. I have literally hundreds of examples.
God I wish I was born with the genes that would allow me to be so stubbornly ignorant and patriotic as well. But no, I had to go and be literate and have the ability to criticise things. Fuck you, Lord.
That is a payload of damage. Fuck me, you all live like that?
Sorry for joking earlier, I can see now why you’re not laughing. This is an order of magnitude higher than what I was talking about. How is it the Russians have more of a reputation for being grim?
